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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Master J View Post
    PTScrapper said high grade boards were $4.55 lb, but if you go to Boardsort you will see that there category “motherboard grade” is $4.55 lb. “Telecom High Grade” is currently $5.15 lb.

    $4.55 - .55 = $4 not $2.50 - $3.00

    Also their price list is updated frequently to reflect changes in the underlining metals market prices. Other buyer’s prices seem to be stagnant while gold is up around 15% in last 30 days.

    It is important to know the competition as well as yourself.

    Knowing your competition is a big deal. But you are a scrap yard....do you watch what all other scrap yards pay? No why not? Because there are many yards that pay many prices?

    I have not heard of them before and I was over looking some of there prices. One thing I was able to note very well is that they wont say where it go down stream even with me trying to get as much info...and still unable to know where his stuff go down stream.

    With my scrap I can tell you where every bit of scrap goes even down to the last bit of scrap I take it. I make sure its NOT going to a 3ed world country an if he is paying those kind of prices for both small and large...makes me wounder where he is selling it. 3ed world country's will pay the most on e-waste than anyone else but they do not care about there workers...they can have kids as old as 12 working and doing things that will kill them to recover the gold and silver.




    Anyone who wants to know where my scrap goes I will tell you. But you SHOULD do the RIGHT thing and make sure e-waste is not being sent out to a country like that....they pay the most...but it costs kids lives...kinda like the blood diamonds

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    Many yards and many prices is correct. That is why giving an example based on your own numbers and insisting that any other way is stupid is completely biased.

    Good point on the health concerns. Be careful on the last statement. If you don’t have documentation and were wrong that could be considered libel and could have legal ramifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Master J View Post
    Many yards and many prices is correct. That is why giving an example based on your own numbers and insisting that any other way is stupid is completely biased.

    Good point on the health concerns. Be careful on the last statement. If you don’t have documentation and were wrong that could be considered libel and could have legal ramifications.
    I did not know of that company so I was making a total guess thats all.

    And yes there are some laws based on where what can be shipped to where. But what happens most times its shipped to one country and then sold from there to the third world country. So if you don't follow the scrap from start to end...you will lose it fast. I request the shipping logs of export an where it is going. So I do know the end refiner. I don't have a load that will be worth sending in alone..thats why I send mine with another yards so that it can then be refined.

    In short..thats how scrap brokers work.

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    Thank You both for that. Its helps us small time e-scrappers who are just getting into it alot.

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    im saying it again

    if anyone had to set up shop here in South Africa, they would do very well
    after initial investment in setting up the extracting/refining machines/equipment, they would recover their $$ very fast & after that it would be mostly profit

    i dont have $ or space but i know lots of people

    how wish any of the ppl who buy & extract decided to come here

    theres ONLY ONE guy who seems to do this & HE PAYS LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT THE GUYS IN THE US PAY

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    If you are going to remove the fingers from boards, the easiest method I have found is to simply take either a 2x4 or 2x6 piece of strong wood, cut a slot across it and then feed the boards finger end into the slot, while sitting or anchoring the other end of the board, and pushing on it in one direction until it snaps cleanly off. In this way you are not creating particulates by sawing that could be breathed in and cause health issues later down the road. It's fast, and easy.

    In some cases, depending on who it is purchasing the boards, it might be more profitable retaining the fingers with the boards, or not. There is evidence on either side.

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    We used industrial sized paper cutters with the one large knife on a handle.
    8 hour day cutting fingers...truckload after truckload
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    Tin snip works well but i have stopped trimming its not worth my time when i have 30ish towers to break down and a ton of appliances to strip

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    I used to use tin snips, but developed carpel tunnel in my snipping hand. Now I use a pair of wide pliers to grab and snap the fingers right off the card. I don't sell them, rather I run them myself so I don't have to worry about getting deducted for not being 'close cut'.

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    I used tin snips as well when I felt I wasn't getting the best quality job done with breaking them off with either pliers or in a vice. The tin snips do a nice job, but it doesn't take long for my hand to get tired and sore. Also, if you are not careful as you get to the end of the cut, that last "snip" could sent the entire finger flying across your shop to never be seen again.

    I lucked out and received an arbor press that came complete with a guillotine shear. Works like a dream! One pull on the handle-done, next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Master J View Post
    Please take the time to consider that some of us collect the fingers because they are easy to refine the gold from, not to sell separately. A quick research session will provide the details including videos to anyone not familiar with this concept. The less material to sell to middle men the better off you are.
    Of course, if you just going to refine the fingers only and discard the rest , I'll reimburse you shipping if you sent them to me!


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