Ok here we go...

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Originally Posted by Julie

The audacity knows no bounds! I popped on here just to share this : I got another text that said "Can we get paid?" I'm not a confrontational person but the bill is getting close to $200 now so I figured that it needed to be addressed. I sent a message saying "we have been discussing that - How much do you think that you've earned?" (Morbid curiousity not only killed the cat it has done far worse) I got a quick reply of "$100.00" If I was standing I would've fallen over. WHAT?!? so after the shock value wore off a little I sent back "Can you give us a breakdown of where you came up with this?" That was an hour ago and I have yet to receive a reply. What i am really hoping to accomplish with this is to get them to actually think about what they are saying and then be able to justify/explain it to someone. I'm not a bad person - I'm just trying to be realistic about it. I honestly can't wait to hear their answer though considering their first one was so... I really can't find a word to describe it... interesting maybe?

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Even if they did something for that 45 minutes, $100? I wished I was paid $100/hour...well when I am doing real estate deals I am, but that is besides the point.

I agree with olddude, calculate all the extra expense that you have occured because of them, and simply tell them that you owe them nothing for no work, since they cost you xx amount of dollars more than you expected due to laziness.

I can see your hesitation over saying anything at all to them, they are your friends, and you don't possibly want to loose that friendship. Will Julie, the harsh fact is, they are NOT your friends. Friends don't tell friends they will do a job and then complain every moment, and then leave their friend struggling, while you work your butt off.

Actually, I remember you saying that you bought them Subway for lunch. Well you know what, that is their PAY right there.

We get Subway a couple of times a week so I know the cost for 2 subs, so that is their pay.

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Originally Posted by newattitude

Wow! Thanks for sharing all this Julie! What are the square things in the orange bucket?

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Yep they're floppy drives... the super old kind! lol I was just basically throwing everything I needed to take apart that was smaller than a tower into that bucket. It was messing up my pallet organization to try to keep them on there.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeB

Even if they did something for that 45 minutes, $100? I wished I was paid $100/hour...well when I am doing real estate deals I am, but that is besides the point.

I agree with olddude, calculate all the extra expense that you have occured because of them, and simply tell them that you owe them nothing for no work, since they cost you xx amount of dollars more than you expected due to laziness.

I can see your hesitation over saying anything at all to them, they are your friends, and you don't possibly want to loose that friendship. Will Julie, the harsh fact is, they are NOT your friends. Friends don't tell friends they will do a job and then complain every moment, and then leave their friend struggling, while you work your butt off.

Actually, I remember you saying that you bought them Subway for lunch. Well you know what, that is their PAY right there.

We get Subway a couple of times a week so I know the cost for 2 subs, so that is their pay.

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I agree - I'm not really worried about salvaging the "friendship" i just don't like to get myself into a position where i get all mad and hulk out on them or something.

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Originally Posted by olddude

I'm in love with this girl !

do an invoice of cost including extra cost incured because they didnt do what they contracted to do. include extra milage and rental. amertise there pay by the hour based on an 8 hr day. put your extra cost incured at the top deduct their actual earned income . include a bill for the ballance they owe you.

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I plan on putting together an excel spread sheet when i get to work this morning... which i will also be adding to their bill because now i've had to take time at work to address the issue. Just kidding!

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Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper

We all are! ;)

lol @ $100 for doing nothing. I'd be curious how they arrived at that number as well.


As for the remaining material, is it worth going back for? If not, might try a CL ad closer to the area for someone to go grab and cut your losses.

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That is pretty much what I am planning on doing. We grabbed all if not the majority of the towers and printers that were there. I have 2 potential CL people that I've already been in contact with regarding the job. One pays for the stuff they pick up the other has the classic "free pick up" I'm trying to get the lady more money if possible. we'll see what happens

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Originally Posted by parrothead

Thanks for giving us an update. Sorry it turned out to be such a pain in the butt. Especially with the help. You bought them lunch that day. That is enough. They refused to work fark them.

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No need for you to be sorry - it's not your fault my "friends" are lame! I'm still grateful that you pointed this opportunity out so I can get the whole experience- good or bad

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Originally Posted by Mick

Julie, if you're hiring to sit in the truck in the AC, I'm available. I have a lot of experience (in my own truck, other people always seemed to want me to get out and work) and I promise not to get in your way. And I only expect $30/hr (plus lunch, of course).

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Ok I'll pencil you in for the next job and since I've known you for a while now let add lunch and dinner into the equation. lol

So they sent a message after I went to sleep saying "Is there a problem?" Well yeah i would have to say there is at bear minimum a discrepency in the numbers somewhere... I'm going to put my spread sheet together (thanks for the suggestion olddude!) and send it over with a little note that says "No problem at all. Please review, balance due immediately"

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Originally Posted by Julie

So they sent a message after I went to sleep saying "Is there a problem?" Well yeah i would have to say there is at bear minimum a discrepency in the numbers somewhere... I'm going to put my spread sheet together (thanks for the suggestion olddude!) and send it over with a little note that says "No problem at all. Please review, balance due immediately"

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JULIE SMASH LAME FRIENDS!!!

I never cease to be amazed at the audacity of lazy people.

I would take the opportunity to teach them a life lesson. Tell them you were planning on paying them $10/ hr and figured they could have made $100, but since they elected to quit after 30 minutes they only earned $5 which was paid in the form of a sub sandwich. Point out that even though the sandwich was more than $5 that you will eat that cost along with all the additional expenses that you incurred by them not fullfilling their end of the deal.

+1 with what RusyDollars said.

Option 1: Send them the spreadsheet, but only if they are smart enough to understand that the final amount is what they owe you, not what they are getting paid.

Option 2: Do what Rusty said.

About getting the stuff picked up - since you paid for it on ebay, you should be taking any extra money yourself. Right now you are minus on the deal - there is no need to pay twice for the same stuff.

This is better than a soap opera...can't wait to find out what happens next...Julie, I might take one of those floppy drives apart just to look at the circuit board...being that old they might be mid-grade quality, and worth fooling with.

I think this shows the basic difference between the members of this forum and those waiting on the government or Mommy and Daddy to provide. Your two friends demonstrate the entitlement mentality that seems to prevail on the news channels.

It is encouraging to read the many posts by younger members who have drive and ambition to go out and take risks as Julie has done. Mike

Hi everyone! Sorry I have been busy but here's more pictures!!

Inside one of the servers
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...ms_picture.jpg
and the other one i brought home
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_2-3.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_3-2.jpg

Boards!
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_2-1.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture_3.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture_4.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture_5.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture-1.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_2-2.jpg

Processor
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture-2.jpg

This is a hard drive I found in the server step by step breakdown:
top, side & bottom - it's a seagate!
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_3-1.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_4-1.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_5-1.jpg
outside brackets off
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_4-2.jpg
top of the board
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_2-4.jpg
bottom of the board
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture-3.jpg
under the board
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_5-2.jpg

now with the cap thing off
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_3-3.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_4-3.jpg
and front and back
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/...icture_5-3.jpg
http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/..._picture-4.jpg

sorry about the variation in size gotta love cellphone pics right?

Unofficial totals:

Printers: 21

Monitors: 37

Towers: 57

I counted the older apple machines as towers since they have a motherboard in them...I still have an "other" category that I didn't get to yet.

I think you did well. Take your time to ensure you get the maximum return. I really enjoy the photos and I am happy for your success. Mike