Long or short TON

Long ton is 2240
Short ton is 2000
Just for the heck i have been trying to figure what pays more
Like if 2 yards each pay $250 per ton But one uses short ton and other uses Long
my conclusion is - it appears that short ton pays .13 per pound opposed to longs .11
AND 500 lb goes into 2240 4.48 * .11 =.50
And 500 lb goes into 2000 4 * .13 =.50

seems that yards can work numbers in their favor - I am lost



By me to day
one yard pays 240 @ long
and another 260 @ short

Who really is paying better ?
I need a concise formula for a conclusion
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if I am paid $240 at the long yard it looks like .9 cents
$260 at short yard is .7

Short steel - long steel I know
Yards do pick and pay on either the gross ton or net ton in the good old USA

gross ton - a British unit of weight equivalent to 2240 pounds. the long ton is 2240

net ton - a United States unit of weight equivalent to 2000 pounds. short ton is 2000

This is a brain tease

Simple - Break each into $xxx per pound.

Wow, short ton, long ton, metric ton, and price per hundred weight, why don't they standardize it into price per pound ? Avoid lots of confusion that way

They WANT you confused. They have no interest in educating you. They're like the government that way. It is to their advantage if you blindly take whatever they pay.

I figured that just think they should be clear. Bout whT they actually are paying, either price per pound, or price per us ton, 2000#. All this other prices are nonsense to me

Originally Posted by Mick

Simple - Break each into $xxx per pound.

Ok
pick how you want to be paid
.12 per lb by the gross or .14 net ton
seems that yards like to pay out with net as you think it's better, I see now that .12 @ gross is better pay then .13 Net
last week i was paid .0864 gross week before .0872 that small difference means a lot to them, As so it should be with us
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I guess the best way to figure, is go to the yard that pays net with 100 lb . Then hit up the yard with 100 lbs that pays on gross that will be the conclusion .
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I suspect they can mix and match and weigh you in and pay out to there bottom line need
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An old joke was what is heaver a ton of gold or a ton of feathers
answer is : feathers cause gold is weighed based on short ton

most yards work in short ton or US ton and that is 2000# now you have some yards that work another way and that could be caused by the program they are using. There are some GREAT scrap programs that are made in the UK...so its on the UK weight and they did not have it changed over to US due to costs to reprogram. Some other yards want it on the UK style because that's where they could be selling to so it makes accounting simple and easy. I sell by the short ton (2000#s)

As someone said just brake it down and look at the per 100pound payment (some yards did that work for you already)

Not sure if we are gong in circles but Short ton: $/2000
Long ton (gross) : $/2240 can create a price per pound for each , but a comparison of each causes some people to think the 1 cent higher payout that often is associated with a gross ton and causes some to sell to said yards is actually less pay then a yard that uses net ton at a listed price of 1 cent less
I used to think a certain yard that was paying .867 @ net was less money then .925 at gross now i see the truth .
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(the units are not the same).
like 1 gal milk for $2.95 or
4 liters of milk for $2.96 what is the better deal. If I was a farmer I'd rather sell 1 USA gal for $2.95 cause quantitatively the increase of .1 is a loss
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It's not your weight that counts it's the method by which they calculate your weight that is most important

Originally Posted by Dex

4 liters is the better deal. It takes about 3.8 liters to make a gallon.

If you break the price per ton or tonne down into pennies per pound you can multiply by 2000 or 2240 to get per ton or tonne. So you can go back and forth between the two. It's quite simple. 200$ a ton is .10 a pound. 224$ a tonne is .10 a pound. A pound is always a pound.

you might want to buy 4 liters of milk at 2.96 but would you want to sell it at the price of 2.96 I would rather sell 1 us gal @2.95
the 1 cent higher price will not cover the extra amt of milk 4 liters has compared to 1 gal of milk . Same principle for net opposed to gross sell less for more money . Some yards a buying more metal for less money cause they use gross ton
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I realize it can be made to be equal but thats not what i am talking about it's the trickery of not using one uniform rule of measurement