Hmmm! That's interesting Mech, as I was catching up on the thread, all I could guess was that things have changed since the early 80s, but you're posting a judgement from the same time
Hmmm! That's interesting Mech, as I was catching up on the thread, all I could guess was that things have changed since the early 80s, but you're posting a judgement from the same time
I see those press machines plenty so it must be ok , Next time i will read the disclaimer
It may have just been an over zealous NOPD (seems they were pretty good at arresting people for no really valid reason ; )
FOr the past couple of months I have been separating my copper pennies from the zinc ones since I heard about penny hoarding. I dont use cash/coins much, so it is a very small pile. As a person in the metal detecting hobby I dig up pennies while looking for better stuff & will clean and cash them in. I have even found a few souvenir squashed pennies people are talking about in this thread (one that has the lords prayer on it, one that has a b-52 bomber on it from some aircraft museum in nebraska I think, and one that have No. 7 Jack daniels whiskey on it). Even found one of those kennedy stamped pennies a coulple years ago.
I had one when i was a kid and wondered if I would ever find one with my metal detector. There are a lot of "stamped" penny varieties out there. Ones with freemason symbols, US state outlines, abe Lincoln smoking a pipe or cigar, and a liberty bell symbol.
I wonder if it is legal to recycle damaged copper pennies? I have found a bunch of flattened one in a park that was next to railroad tracks.
Funny thing about the copper-plated zinc pennies..... when they have been in the ground a long time.... they get eaten into by the soil. Here are some I have found & tumble-cleaned in a rock tumbler.
More than you will ever want to know about hording coppers realcent.org
I have a bucket of pennies with water damage. They leave powder, dirt, crud, etc. on my hands. I thought of scrapping them, but now I suppose I'll take them to a bank where a teller must handle them.
The U.S. Mint redeems mutilated coins at the rate of $3.21 per kilogram, or $1.46 per pound for cents; $9.99 per kilogram, or $4.54 per pound, for 5-cent coins; $44.09 per kilogram or $20 per pound, for copper-nickel clad coins (dimes, quarter dollars and half dollars); and $123.46 per kilogram, or $56 per pound, for dollar coins.
Mint adopts Mutilated Coin Redemption Program changes | CoinWorld
http://www.usmint.gov/email/MUTILATEDCOIN.pdf
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I keep my copper pennies. I don't have that many but I always put the pre'82 ones in a coffee can. I figure they are slowly disappearing from circulation much like the wheat pennies. I don't know what I will do with them but they will sit in the coffe cans in the garage.
I also metal detect when I have time and it isn't too hot or soil too dry to dig. Zinc lincolns always seem to be corroded. I clean them up and if they are still intact, I just roll them with any other common post '82 pennies I have.
I would like to point out that Currency and Coinage are two different things and not interchangeable terms. if you'd like to get technical, all paper currency in the US is illegal because it is printed by a private corporation, the Federal Reserve Bank. Only congress has the power to order currency or coinage under the Constitution. The Coinage is all made by the US mint. So it cannot be illegal to destroy currency, because it is all printed by a private corporation, contrary to the directives of the Constitution. Coinage is another story.
Is this post somehow related to the subject of scrap metal?
People may laugh at me, but that's ok. I laugh all the way to the bank.
I am sure with the ease of creating smelters some people melt the coins . What I have been trying to do research on is how much copper is turning in to bullion each month, A thirst for copper is showing on e - bay. What I have found is copper that will melt with lower oxidation and dross / pipes # 1 is what is purchased with excitement. Copper that has been cleaned by means of fire seems less desirable as I feel burnt copper must have higher loss during smelting . Wile there is a art to cleaning copper wire with fire to leave unharmed . e bay customers shy away from it. On E Bay pennies can be sold with 100% success - so are the purchasers smelters or hoarders ? I spoke to a individual who purchased some CU
from me he said he had a small shredder,so he also wanted #1 casing wire from me. (no point selling i felt) For sure some thing is going on out there, wire is 99.999 % pure .
Any way as long as Wall Mart and others sell there stuff for $89.99 like its not $90 - we need pennies . To eliminate pennies we would need a magic price number on goods and take the % of tax into account to eliminate the need for pennies . Since the mint knows enough people do melt pennies - mostly Zinc pennies are here to stay.
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I believe the last new Canadian pennies were minted this past summer. You can still use them if you have them. In the future, if you don't have them and are paying by cash, you'll simply round up or down to the nearest nickel. Credit and debit transactions will still be to the cent.
That is a loss , with the implication that one day all cash could be gone (some day) If a store wants to round down fine but don't be rounding up on my money , the day I start losing .04 per sale day after day - no way , like stores wont figure a way to price so the rounding happens at our expense. Think what i say is only a penny well don't we all make money on .07 cents per LB
can you imagine Wal mart making an extra .03 per cash customer
About a month ago I was at a Macdonald's at about 9:30 PM & sure enough ( careless )
a management sales query 24 hr day receipt was sitting on the counter near register
the gross for the day ending at 9:00 was more then $3800 . Those big companies better not be rounding up on me.
Last edited by Copper Head; 11-03-2012 at 09:03 PM.
100,000 customers @ .01 = $1000 business in the know will figure a way to have a round up at our expense. A Wall Mart by me has enough business per week that a mathematically engineered round up would be $ 10,000 per month $120,000 per year
all from the lowly penny what about Lowes home depot ECT. Those bean counters will find a way to take the penny .
LOL, I think you're getting paranoid there. My guess is the final digit in the sales total is pretty much a random event, that is, it's equally likely that it would be 0 through 9. I don't see how a store could rig the final digit in the total when they have no control over the number of individual items you're buying. Where the stores do screw you though, is where you're not looking. My personal expertise is with flooring. The big box stores often have big discounts on flooring, where it's fairly easy for consumers to comparison shop. At the same time they make outrageous margins on accessories like moldings, glue and fasteners.
Just for the heck I am sorting pennies , Also I picked up $5 worth of pennies today , I do live in a small town so seems like most of the rolls come from local people turning in pennies at the bank ( there in rolls that are not standard bank rolls ) anyway first roll is mostly 82 and under , I'll see how the others go. I found one from 72 even looked Uncirculated. I thinking there are plenty of true CU's out there . If I can sell a .1 for .2 right now what the heck. Many people want copper bullion and pay good $$ for it , Well at the very least way not buy CU bullion for face value well under current spot. What is legal to do with them is a reality - AND - Possession is nine-tenths of the law
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