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    A license does not make a good driver, it is only a government control and a way to make taxation more convienant.

    I agree that there needs to be regulations and the law in NYC is what it is and should be followed. As far as the unsafe ewaste facility you saw I reccomend you notify the proper authorities. But make no mistake that licensed is no guarantee that it is proper or lawful operation.

    I sell my ewaste to a buyer who is a responsible businessman whom I trust is doing things right. When you are a member of this forum for a while longer I believe you will notice that illegal behavior will not be tolerated. I guess it was the thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the repeated admonishment to get the NYC license. It stuck me that you don't know the members here very well yet. I hope you stick around long enough to get to know more of us. Mike.

    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post
    It's not up to a poll, the bottom line is whether or not it is LEGAL. The legalities of this vary, some places it's legal some places it's not.

    In NYC as described the the OP of this thread, it seems to be ILLEGAL because the city assumes that they will in fact make a certain amount of profit from the recyclables put out on trash day. To put it bluntly, THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY TAKING OWNERSHIP OF RECYCLABLES PLACED CURBSIDE.

    On another note there's two sides to the story. Some people might not want strangers picking through the garbage put outside their home for whatever reason, where others might look at it in a way they don't mind helping someone out, if you're going to make a few bucks all the power to you. But again, it's all an individual perspective, some towns allow it, some don't, some people don't mind, some people do.

    The same goes with 'dumpster diving', some places it's ok, some places it's not. Some people WANT scrap in their own dumpster, whether it's mixed with trash or not because they know it's worth money and they're going to pick through THEIR OWN DUMPSTER later on. No matter what the situation is you should always be respectful, considerate and aware of the community you live in, its laws and its people.

    Here, for example, 'dumpster diving' is legal SO LONG as the dumpster is an OPEN dumpster, it is not fenced in, posted as private property, or stated via a sign or otherwise that you should not go through the dumpster.

    All I'm saying is, regardless of opinion, laws are laws, and privacy is privacy.
    I need to change my verbage....The poll should read Do you think curbside trash pickin should be illegal...........Of course the answer would be a resounding no except for the few who think they are taking a hit from the small time curb scrappers...........I personally don't trash pick anymore as I buy large quanities of e-scrap and dismantle......If I needed the money I for sure would be running alleys, curbs, etc.......Use common sense, make sure your drivers liscense is legit and your truck is insured and you should have little problem. This type of scrapping to me was always a gray area......Is the item truly on the curb or is it 2 inches away from the curb in someone's yard.......Oh well in large cities trash picking will eventually be illegal and those "small timers" who were pumping their hard earned scrap money back into the economy will once again have to rely on the gov't to lend a helping hand..........This is a good discussion and I have my own opinions which don't amount to SPIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    So could I pay for prostitutes with cardboard? LOL
    How much honey?

    What will 3 gaylords and a fridge box get me?

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    I have heard of people parking there trucks and pushing carts miles to collect items to avoid the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by technologyrecycling View Post
    I know a lot of you scrappers out there like to scope out boxes or scoop up material that has been left for pick-up on the streets of the 5 boroughs in NYC. I have made a couple comments in the last few days regarding the legality of this activity. I have been in the waste business in NYC for the last decade. It has required a massive investment on my part. The city commission which regulates the industry in the 5 boroughs is known as the Business Integrity Commission. They were formed in response to the obvious ties to organized crime that the industry had historically in the city.

    I wanted to notify you scrappers that do your picking in the 5 boroughs that they are cracking down hard. Here is a link describing their intent to increase enforcement...

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/bic/download..._intro_889.pdf

    This mandate is specific to commercial establishments. The ones for residential are MUCH harsher as the department of sanitation creates their budget assuming a certain return on their recyclable material. The theft of recyclable materials from the city of NY directly correlates with increased taxes/fees that its inhabitants have to pay if the city falls short of reaching it's projections... Because of this, the city comes down very hard on scrappers that take their material..

    Good luck. Be safe... but most of all, BE SMART!
    Maybe i missed it because of the hour, but i saw nothing in there that mentioned individual scrappers. It sounds like they are cracking down on the waste companies that are stealing from each other or illegally removing cardboard from the streets. I dont think us small timers are the ones you should be woorying about, if I were you I would woory about the bigger companies that are stealing from you.
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