I finally won !! It was a very nice sunny day a nice day to do some earning .I start with useing a rip saw to cut off the copper elbows from AC condenser radiators , LA LA LA got my strong leather gloves on LA LA LA and BAM my thumb glove gets jammed as hard as a hammer and as I say this i just tapped my foot in disgust , I look at the glove and yes it is torn up I take a peek slow at the thumb and thats it oh ya off to the Dr. 6 stitches 3 deep stitches lucky no harm to the bone ligaments (I can move it ) but It hurts . Wrong tool wrong blade . I wont get lucky like that to often . Worked with my good hand and 4 fingers to day.