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    I buy low everyday.



    Another off topic...... but I'll save this one too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    Or a real estate license.
    Only if I was a realtor/broker, which I am not. I am a real estate wholesaler, which you are not required to have a real estate license.

    We are known either as a real estate wholesaler or real estate investor. Anyone can buy and sell real estate. Landlords for instance do it all the time. In fact, landlords are some of the biggest investors in real estate there is. Followed by cash rehabbers.

    Rehabbers will buy, rehab the property, and then sell it either themselves, or through a licensed realtor. If you do it yourself, all the documents are available, and you just open escrow for the closing, just like a realtor would.

    Only big different, is that you at some point in the transaction actually own the property, unless you are flipping your right to buy the property, to your cash buyer, which is what a lot of wholesalers/investors do.

    The way you own the property, is by doing what is considered a simultaneous close. Unless you have the funding yourself, it would involve using a transactional funder, or a hard money lender. They lend you the purchase money for a x amount of days, for a x % plus a standard fee. In those cases, you would close your part of the deal at say 2pm for instance, and then you close the other deal with your buyer at some point during that day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    even more confusing....What happened to buy low and sell high

    When it comes to wholesaling, you do buy low, but that is only because most of the properties you put under contract have light to high rehab that needs done, so it is like buying a foreclosure for pennies on the dollar, but not as severe.

    You have to calculate in the cost for rehab, and include what type of spread you want, plus what the house will sell for, when done. That is when you figure out your maximum offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
    Only if I was a realtor/broker, which I am not. I am a real estate wholesaler, which you are not required to have a real estate license.

    We are known either as a real estate wholesaler or real estate investor. Anyone can buy and sell real estate. Landlords for instance do it all the time. In fact, landlords are some of the biggest investors in real estate there is. Followed by cash rehabbers.

    Rehabbers will buy, rehab the property, and then sell it either themselves, or through a licensed realtor. If you do it yourself, all the documents are available, and you just open escrow for the closing, just like a realtor would.

    Only big different, is that you at some point in the transaction actually own the property, unless you are flipping your right to buy the property, to your cash buyer, which is what a lot of wholesalers/investors do.

    The way you own the property, is by doing what is considered a simultaneous close. Unless you have the funding yourself, it would involve using a transactional funder, or a hard money lender. They lend you the purchase money for a x amount of days, for a x % plus a standard fee. In those cases, you would close your part of the deal at say 2pm for instance, and then you close the other deal with your buyer at some point during that day.
    sounds like a scam

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    It's done everyday. Professionals who buy and sell have a real estate agent who does this for them. It's not a big deal. I guess that's where I get the naive thing from. Hell, here the agents will probably help you move into your house too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    It's done everyday. Professionals who buy and sell have a real estate agent who does this for them. It's not a big deal. I guess that's where I get the naive thing from. Hell, here the agents will probably help you move into your house too.
    Just not sure George is a professional

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    sounds like a scam
    He's exploiting bridge financing in a market trying to escalate a turn around on homes that have basically been abandoned or condemned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    sounds like a scam
    Google wholesaling real estate, if you like. I am sure you will find more than enough information. I am sure there is scammers out there, like anything in life, but the technique, and I are not a scam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    It's done everyday. Professionals who buy and sell have a real estate agent who does this for them. It's not a big deal. I guess that's where I get the naive thing from. Hell, here the agents will probably help you move into your house too.
    That is true, but there is also tons who do it themselves. They might have them on their team to handle the selling for them, perhaps, after rehabbing, but generally they buy with no realtor help, unless you might be doing REO's. Then in those cases, you might be using a realtor on both ends.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    Just not sure George is a professional
    That is your opinion, and your entitled to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatMan View Post
    He's exploiting bridge financing in a market trying to escalate a turn around on homes that have basically been abandoned or condemned.
    sounds shady

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatMan View Post
    He's exploiting bridge financing in a market trying to escalate a turn around on homes that have basically been abandoned or condemned.
    Those types of homes are more REO's than than they are the type that would fall under wholesaling category really.

    Also, I am familiar with bridge financing, and that does sometimes take place when using trans funding or hard money lending, but if you do the simple, not overly complicated traditional wholesaling, there is nothing like that involved.

    Also, the types of homes mostly involved in wholesaling are ones that are needing some level of repair/rehab done to them. They can be vacant or have someone living in them. They can also be move in ready homes. You can generally spot wholesale opportunities just by looking at the properties driving in different neighborhoods. A lot of owners have properties that are in another state, and costs to much money to travel back and forth to main the upkeep, and to costly to hire a property mangement company, so the property is "let go" so to speak.

    There is lots of reasons behind a property to be wholesaled, and lots of different situations.

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    good luck George and goodnight

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    This reminds me of the sign me over the title, I'll go to the DMV quick and put it in my name then we'll go to the bank and I'll take a loan against it and pay you for it

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    Guys, here's the thing. You all have your opinion of me from all this time in the scrap metal/junk removal business. I can understand that, because I have been learning and improving since I started it all.

    However, understand this. This is not my first time involved with real estate. Also, I would not be involved in anything shady, scammy, or something that would require me to have a license, and can land me in jail.

    I have a family to think of, 2 girls who depend on me to provide for them.

    I started this thread for 2 reasons really.

    1. To let everyone know that I was back into and it is a new chapter for me.

    2. To give everyone here an opportunity of increasing their business, by providing their info, on the site so potential customers can contact you.

    That is all. Not to try and sell anything, to have a political or any other debate. Not to argue, or bicker, or anything.

    I can understand your concerns. However, I recommend you Googling "wholesaling real estate" and it will help to understand and comprehend.

    Good night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    good luck George and goodnight
    I was going to "thank" your post, but I apparently dont have an option for that, so thanks.

    You too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    This reminds me of the sign me over the title, I'll go to the DMV quick and put it in my name then we'll go to the bank and I'll take a loan against it and pay you for it
    In wholesaling, there is no loans. Except of course if you use trans funding or hard money lending. Even then, it is not a long term loan. More of a short term loan, that is paid off 100% when you sell the property to your cash buyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    sounds shady
    I have this divine gift for seeing through BS. I'm amazing at it. It's like this home skillet. Dude be driving through the suburbs after a natural disaster or through a poor side of town where all the windows be boarded up. Notices a home still standing. Checks the public listing and is like "Hey dawg, the bank owns that property or that beast is in foreclosure, or it's in a transitional period. Let me call my money guy and get this place picked up cheap." The money man is like "Oakely Dokoley, OK, however you can have my money for a couple weeks, but it comes with a high arse interest rate Brah. No surfing on the job with Keanu Reeves yo diggity!" then the fella driving through the neighborhood tracks down the institution or entity that has the property and is like "Yo, me and my dude want to throw down on this property. Don't worry, we going to buy it low and sell it high." That's the bridge part... So this fat cat with all his money collects this big ole interest payment for loaning out his money for a couple weeks, this poor fella sells a property that he got for cheap because it was in fact, crap in the first place, for a substantial sum of money to make him a little cash... to someone with poor judgement who hopes to fix it up and live there or sell it for an even higher price, and then the cycle continues. You don't need a license to do this, just collateral to get a loan from a money man or "lender", and collateral isn't much for a buying a foreclosed home. You could probably use a 88 Oldsmobile Century as collateral. However, these homes are rarely up to housing codes, rarely inspected, and are typically the places where you can buy some crack or score a girl with loose morals for a pack of smokes and a 40 of some Colt .45
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    Congrats, George. I have a friend who buys tax liens. Works well for him. Different states have different laws about them but, basically, you give the state the money owed in back taxes. If the owner pays during the grace period, he gets his money back, plus interest. If not, he can put the property up for sale. He can't lose.
    People may laugh at me, but that's ok. I laugh all the way to the bank.

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    This is the main reason I have chosen not to participate much here. If you try to share your ideas/thoughts with people, they just beat you up about it. George is a business owner and works for himself, which is a hell of a lot more than most of the people here can say.

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    Yeah, we should be encouraging entrepreneurship, not beating people up over their ideas. You go, George!
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    Congratulations!! Glad you were able to get back to doing something you wanted. Glad you also found someone nice enough to help you and not charge you an arm and a leg. Sounds like it could get real confusing real fast. Is this similar to the we buy houses for cash companies?


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