Off duty police harassmant - Page 2

Originally Posted by happyscraper

If somebody is braking the law and a police officer that is off duty or out of thiere jurisdiction sees it they can hold that person until another officer is called. As a matter of fact anybody can do that, it's called a citizens arrest. So your telling me that if an off duty police officer sees somebody robbing a little old lady that police officer can't do anything about it except call 911. I also have had family members that where police officers and I thing your wrong on that one.

Yes you are correct....but in the case of the topic that is being discussed the op removed something from the curb which according to him is not against the law in the area he was in. Also upon being stopped and detained the officer did not call the local agency and inform them that he was holding someone.
As far as citizen arrests go some places will hold you liable if the arrest is not warranted which means you could be open for a lawsuit by the person you stop and criminal charges from the local agency. Most city's have good samaritan laws which will not hold you liable if a mistake is made or if medical aid is rendered and causes further complications, but I would advise you to know if those are in place. The best advice is to call 911 and report as many details of what happened especially if a violent crime is committed, the criminal didn't care what he/she did to the victim what makes you think they are going to care about you.

Originally Posted by Gangel

The grab and hold is only for felony type crime. Most cops live in their jurisdiction if they have a squad with lights at home. By the way I don't think you have to pullover AND stop for a red strobe. Just about anybody can get those.

Not true as far as felony crime goes. Any crime, felony, misdemeanor,violation, which is observed the person can be stopped and detained until local authorities arrive.
Most people know what an unmarked police car looks like, but if you have a doubt call 911 tell them where you are and ask them to radio the car following you to confirm if it is legit.
Not all officers live where they work, and some places require that they don't so there is no integrity issues.

Originally Posted by Gangel

So if I see someone littter I can hold them? I'm still pretty sure it's felony only.

And at least around here unmarked has both strobes.

It sounded like you were speaking of what the police can hold someone for...my mistake.

Know what,you do not have to believe anything anyone says to you. Keep right on truckin the way you want to. I deal with argumentative people everyday who no matter how things are explained to them, they will always think they are right no matter how wrong they are. You sir seem to fit that category judging by most of your posts on this forum. I also will not be baited into a discussion of matters that happens almost 20 years ago.
Maybe you should live by what Mr. King stated when trying to stop the riots " cant we all just get along".
You now find yourself in a category with a few others here that have contributed nothing...my ignore list. Good day and good luck to you.

"Most people know what an unmarked police car looks like, but if you have a doubt call 911 tell them where you are and ask them to radio the car following you to confirm if it is legit.
Not all officers live where they work, and some places require that they don't so there is no integrity issues." - Brasscatcher

Full article at Scrap Metal Forum: http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/day-l...#ixzz2T0nd48zf

I was just reading an article about what to do if you weren't sure the car trying to pull you over was legit or not, advice in the article from LE was to call 911 and ask them to contact the car and inform them your driving to a safe location to pull over. Was some other tips in there, I'll have to try and find it again. Who knew it'd come up again! ha!

I know some of the cops here on my sandbar don't live here on the sandbar. Most live over on the mainland, and thats just our local town(s) police. The deputies the majority live an hour from the sandbar..much much cheaper.

Sirscrapalot - Our attitude towards others determines their attitude towards us. - Earl Nightingale