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Patriot76 A Scrapper's Dream 01-26-2014, 07:05 AM
ITBoneyard Best of luck! I'm looking... 01-26-2014, 07:14 AM
Mick WOW!!! Congratulations. It's... 01-26-2014, 07:34 AM
Bear Coolio! and best wishes for a... 01-26-2014, 07:34 AM
freonjoe Best of luck on your... 01-26-2014, 08:57 AM
KzScrapper Good Luck Patriot. 01-26-2014, 09:13 AM
mikeinreco wow a power... 01-26-2014, 10:06 AM
Patriot76 I am learning as I go. It... 01-26-2014, 01:10 PM
newattitude Wow *whistles*. congrats... 01-26-2014, 03:22 PM
Bear Some of the machinery may... 01-26-2014, 03:24 PM
Patriot76 Before this project began,... 01-26-2014, 03:32 PM
happyscraper I can not give any advice on... 01-26-2014, 05:15 PM
snorton1 This is going to be simply... 01-26-2014, 05:55 PM
Patriot76 I have been given one year to... 01-27-2014, 04:51 AM
sawmilleng I'm following your adventures... 01-26-2014, 06:37 PM
Bear I think once those bids are... 01-26-2014, 11:49 PM
Patriot76 We have had PCB tests... 01-27-2014, 03:20 AM
miked http://i1277.photobucket.com/a... 01-28-2014, 06:23 PM
FLimits Awesome project.... 01-26-2014, 07:22 PM
Ohio Scrapper Been following your threads... 01-26-2014, 08:34 PM
mseashell I defently envy u on this... 01-26-2014, 11:18 PM
thortek Congrats and Good Luck! ... 01-27-2014, 06:13 AM
Patriot76 A member of the forum visited... 01-27-2014, 04:22 PM
sawmilleng Look at any heat exchangers... 01-27-2014, 05:56 PM
Scrap man Wow. I'll definitely be... 01-27-2014, 06:01 PM
Patriot76 Originally the recommendation... 01-28-2014, 03:07 AM
Patriot76 Thought I would add a little... 01-28-2014, 05:14 PM
sawmilleng That's hilarious. Just... 01-28-2014, 06:15 PM
Patriot76 The construction... 01-29-2014, 05:15 AM
Bear any chance they'd found it... 01-29-2014, 05:36 AM
Patriot76 It would have been easier to... 01-29-2014, 05:53 AM
bejak Patriot While you may... 01-29-2014, 06:38 PM
sawmilleng Patriot, You might not... 01-30-2014, 09:43 AM
Patriot76 You make some great... 01-30-2014, 05:01 PM
MattInTheHat The good part about a project... 01-30-2014, 05:18 PM
Bear I think you mentioned the... 01-30-2014, 06:17 PM
Patriot76 Bear, some great ideas. Had... 01-31-2014, 04:35 AM
Bear they'll pump it through a... 01-31-2014, 06:19 AM
Patriot76 I received some valuable... 01-31-2014, 08:38 AM
etack Thanks patriot It was me and... 01-31-2014, 09:47 AM
Patriot76 [QUOTE=etack;185855]Thanks... 01-31-2014, 10:08 AM
Patriot76 A couple of updates on the... 01-31-2014, 11:24 AM
sawmilleng Patriot, Did you get my... 01-31-2014, 11:34 AM
Bear We used propane torches in... 01-31-2014, 12:09 PM
FLimits This thread gets more... 01-31-2014, 03:18 PM
Mick Along with that great... 01-31-2014, 04:41 PM
sawmilleng FL, I think you are... 01-31-2014, 04:48 PM
FLimits Well, I confess that I didn't... 01-31-2014, 07:06 PM
WoodmanYoel If you need help with an... 01-31-2014, 06:29 PM
sawmilleng FL, I always fell asleep in... 01-31-2014, 07:22 PM
FLimits The dreaded econ elective! I... 01-31-2014, 11:05 PM
FLimits But wait! There's more! :-o ... 01-31-2014, 07:23 PM
sawmilleng The first is just a huge... 01-31-2014, 07:50 PM
FLimits Yep, I know who Burns &... 01-31-2014, 10:22 PM
Patriot76 This is the first time since... 02-01-2014, 05:13 AM
Patriot76 After some soul searching,... 02-01-2014, 06:24 AM
FLimits Driving around in the snow... 02-01-2014, 09:49 AM
spinroch Patriot76, You are amazing!... 02-01-2014, 11:40 AM
caleb7210 This is awesome Patriot76!... 02-01-2014, 12:50 PM
Mick Good luck on the RR property.... 02-01-2014, 01:35 PM
jord0690 Theres a guy here waay up... 02-01-2014, 01:52 PM
IdahoScrapper Welcome to the King of... 02-01-2014, 02:06 PM
caleb7210 Thanks guys for the info, I... 02-01-2014, 03:08 PM
jord0690 Ha! Someone needs to take... 02-01-2014, 03:49 PM
Mechanic688 It's gonna be close but in... 02-01-2014, 06:34 PM
Patriot76 Caleb, great find. Please... 02-01-2014, 05:46 PM
Patriot76 Caleb, you might want to... 02-01-2014, 05:52 PM
MMRecycling Hi Patriot and everyone else.... 02-01-2014, 07:27 PM
Patriot76 Welcome to the forum from the... 02-01-2014, 08:26 PM
MMRecycling Yeah im still looking through... 02-01-2014, 08:53 PM
Patriot76 Thank you Mechanic. This is... 02-01-2014, 09:12 PM
Mechanic688 I do know he was a very busy... 02-01-2014, 10:32 PM
SpareTimeScrapper I will be following this... 02-02-2014, 10:29 AM
Patriot76 It has been suggested that... 02-02-2014, 12:03 PM
MMRecycling Patriot I saw in another post... 02-04-2014, 09:26 PM
Patriot76 Try to send in a support... 02-05-2014, 08:09 AM
Mick MMRecycling, you should be... 02-05-2014, 08:27 AM
Patriot76 Updates on this project have... 02-06-2014, 05:55 AM
Copper Head If ever there was a business... 02-06-2014, 08:00 PM
Patriot76 I am not sure what you mean... 02-07-2014, 05:12 AM
Copper Head I have heard the term before... 02-07-2014, 08:59 PM
Pnutfarmer Hi Patriot, I saw Copper... 02-07-2014, 05:54 AM
Patriot76 Thank you. Great information... 02-07-2014, 06:18 AM
Patriot76 Some may wonder why so much... 02-07-2014, 10:47 AM
Patriot76 Remember the story of Huck... 02-07-2014, 04:01 PM
sawmilleng Patriot, Its OK as long... 02-07-2014, 04:57 PM
Pnutfarmer Patriot.... I've actually had... 02-07-2014, 09:10 PM
MattInTheHat A comment on the deadlines. ... 02-07-2014, 09:26 PM
Patriot76 Thank you. Great idea that... 02-08-2014, 05:24 PM
Bear I think those suggestions are... 02-08-2014, 06:21 PM
Patriot76 Big day today. The deal is... 02-13-2014, 03:10 PM
Bear Best of luck with it all... 02-13-2014, 03:27 PM
tsmith53149 A Scrapper's Dream 02-13-2014, 03:48 PM
Patriot76 Thank you. As a retired high... 02-13-2014, 04:04 PM
Mick Congratulations, Mike. Is... 02-13-2014, 04:56 PM
Patriot76 I do not know but will find... 02-13-2014, 05:17 PM
FLimits Congrats, Patriot. Here's a... 02-13-2014, 11:14 PM
Patriot76 Thank you for posting this... 02-14-2014, 10:57 AM
FLimits It's the other way around,... 02-14-2014, 08:37 PM
Patriot76 Time for a little humor. ... 02-14-2014, 06:04 AM
Bear hahaha Patriot, city people... 02-14-2014, 06:48 AM
Patriot76 This week will be spent... 02-15-2014, 06:15 AM
FLimits I don't know if this will be... 02-15-2014, 09:27 AM
Patriot76 Thank you. Other valuable... 02-15-2014, 02:55 PM
caleb7210 Here's some other online... 03-04-2014, 09:03 PM
Bear Just a little something about... 02-16-2014, 10:38 AM
Patriot76 Thank you Bear. Your words... 02-16-2014, 11:49 AM
Bear This is totally awesome, cool... 02-16-2014, 08:23 PM
bullion Just an idea from a new... 02-16-2014, 01:22 PM
Yunkman That was a good suggestion. ... 02-16-2014, 05:09 PM
MattInTheHat All Ideas are welcome. He... 02-16-2014, 02:04 PM
Patriot76 Thank you Bullion for your... 02-16-2014, 06:01 PM
bullion Glad I could help. Keep in... 02-16-2014, 08:42 PM
sawmilleng Patriot, (is it Mike?) I'm... 02-19-2014, 06:00 PM
Patriot76 Thanks Saw. First you get... 02-20-2014, 03:49 AM
sawmilleng Oh, okay. When I read... 02-20-2014, 07:51 AM
Pnutfarmer Hey Patriot.....I thought of... 02-20-2014, 09:16 PM
Patriot76 Pnutfarmer, This is... 02-21-2014, 05:13 AM
Patriot76 My 14 yr. old diesel broke... 02-21-2014, 12:28 PM
sawmilleng Wow, look at all the riveted... 02-21-2014, 05:56 PM
Patriot76 In two weeks, 3,000 miles... 02-22-2014, 05:51 PM
Mick I had that happen on a one... 02-22-2014, 07:25 PM
Patriot76 This is the ramp that was... 03-02-2014, 06:56 PM
Bear possibly mismatched lug to... 02-22-2014, 06:52 PM
Patriot76 This is a picture of the west... 03-02-2014, 06:51 PM
Bear That doesn't look like much... 03-02-2014, 08:23 PM
Patriot76 A larger opening will be made... 03-03-2014, 06:16 PM
Yunkman Only too recently I became... 03-02-2014, 08:49 PM
Patriot76 Thank you Yunkman. I think I... 03-03-2014, 06:18 PM
Patriot76 Met the captain of the Omaha... 03-03-2014, 06:46 PM
Sirscrapalot I was wondering where my... 03-03-2014, 06:31 PM
Patriot76 Problems with the computer... 03-03-2014, 06:52 PM
Patriot76 This picture is at the bottom... 03-03-2014, 06:54 PM
jord0690 Over-torquing stretches the... 03-03-2014, 07:59 PM
sawmilleng Hopefully you have a civil... 03-03-2014, 09:00 PM
Patriot76 First, an apology to Sir for... 03-04-2014, 05:24 PM
Patriot76 http://i1277.photobucket.com/a... 03-04-2014, 05:46 PM
Otto How much concrete are you... 03-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Caveman Too many unknowns on my end,... 03-04-2014, 08:02 PM
Patriot76 http://i1277.photobucket.com/a... 03-04-2014, 05:01 PM
corycouch Patriot, I absolutely love... 03-04-2014, 05:21 PM
Patriot76 http://i1277.photobucket.com/a... 03-04-2014, 05:34 PM
Mick And the solution didn't take... 03-04-2014, 06:04 PM
sawmilleng Reasonable questions have... 03-04-2014, 09:12 PM
Patriot76 Some great ideas and... 03-05-2014, 02:09 AM
Patriot76 Thought you might like to see... 03-16-2014, 02:34 PM
Mick [QUOTE=Patriot76;193326]Though... 03-16-2014, 02:51 PM
Patriot76 Right on. Now you want to... 03-16-2014, 03:11 PM
Mick I was trying to figure that... 03-16-2014, 06:44 PM
FLimits Don't feel bad, Patriot. At... 03-16-2014, 03:23 PM
Sirscrapalot But you could be here... ... 03-16-2014, 03:46 PM
BRASSCATCHER What is that a barrier reef? 03-16-2014, 03:53 PM
Sirscrapalot That sir the is the road to... 03-16-2014, 03:58 PM
Patriot76 Mick, I owe you and your wife... 03-17-2014, 03:56 AM
Mick I'll gladly collect the next... 03-17-2014, 04:20 AM
Patriot76 Drove in from the ranch today... 03-23-2014, 03:15 PM
Patriot76 Here is a picture after we... 03-23-2014, 03:39 PM
Patriot76 A picture of a water tank is... 03-23-2014, 03:48 PM
Pnutfarmer Thanks for the update and... 03-23-2014, 08:22 PM
StazMatix Well ****. I've been peeking... 03-28-2014, 05:15 PM
Patriot76 It is not the Ft. Calhoun... 03-29-2014, 04:36 AM
Patriot76 Previously a picture was... 03-30-2014, 03:20 PM
spinroch Awesome! 03-30-2014, 03:37 PM
Patriot76 Had to end this round with a... 03-30-2014, 03:37 PM
Patriot76 The first picture if of the... 03-30-2014, 03:11 PM
FLimits Please be careful at that... 03-30-2014, 05:21 PM
Patriot76 This is the start of the... 04-07-2014, 04:42 AM
Patriot76 This is the other boiler... 04-07-2014, 05:17 AM
Patriot76 We knew we should hammer out... 04-07-2014, 05:37 AM
Yunkman Thanks for the pics, Patriot.... 04-07-2014, 06:06 AM
scrapper5 CONGRATS!!! This is America,... 04-07-2014, 06:52 AM
Patriot76 One of the challenges in this... 04-07-2014, 02:50 PM
Patriot76 The next major challenge for... 04-07-2014, 03:20 PM
Patriot76 For those following some of... 04-07-2014, 03:56 PM
Patriot76 Wanted to share a picture of... 04-07-2014, 04:06 PM
Pnutfarmer Hi Patriot, I'm loving your... 04-08-2014, 06:10 PM
Patriot76 A little update of cutting... 04-13-2014, 04:16 PM
Patriot76 Previously the coal... 04-13-2014, 04:23 PM
Patriot76 Some pictures of the many... 04-13-2014, 04:39 PM
Patriot76 A lot of neat items have been... 04-13-2014, 04:44 PM
Patriot76 This is the second floor view... 04-13-2014, 04:11 PM
Patriot76 As we move upward, pictures... 04-13-2014, 04:36 PM
Patriot76 Since we cannot use machinery... 05-04-2014, 05:05 AM
Patriot76 This is some random metal on... 05-04-2014, 05:14 AM
Patriot76 To date we have removed 680... 05-04-2014, 05:18 AM
Patriot76 Some pictures of metal that... 05-04-2014, 05:12 AM
Patriot76 Shower of sparks, following... 05-11-2014, 01:26 PM
bullion That place looks like a good... 05-11-2014, 05:38 PM
PistoneScrapProcessing Well at least your learning... 05-13-2014, 05:41 PM
Patriot76 A lot of what I have learned... 05-14-2014, 04:21 AM
hmburner I will have to be breif on... 05-14-2014, 09:33 AM
Pnutfarmer Hey Patriot, thanks for the... 05-13-2014, 08:22 PM
hmburner Home now in the command post... 05-14-2014, 07:21 PM
Patriot76 Thank you for the... 05-15-2014, 04:19 AM
dayvirus Patriot 76 Im a new member... 05-14-2014, 07:36 PM
hmburner Welcome to the forum. I... 05-14-2014, 07:56 PM
Patriot76 The start of this thread is... 05-15-2014, 04:11 AM
DevinThaScrapper I am only 15, but I hope to... 05-15-2014, 10:24 AM
Patriot76 Limited internet access... 05-21-2014, 05:27 PM
spinroch Yep! It takes a bit to load,... 05-21-2014, 07:30 PM
Yunkman We can hear them all too... 05-22-2014, 05:40 AM
Patriot76 Wanted to share what a... 05-21-2014, 05:21 PM
aimone Work for me 05-21-2014, 05:37 PM
Patriot76 Update: We are moving to the... 05-23-2014, 04:25 AM
ThatTubaDude Amazing 06-08-2014, 10:50 PM
Patriot76 ThatTubaDude - Welcome to the... 06-09-2014, 04:13 AM
Patriot76 Wanted to give you an idea of... 06-14-2014, 04:35 PM
Patriot76 Back at the ranch for the... 06-14-2014, 04:24 PM
Patriot76 Some pictures of one of four... 06-14-2014, 04:58 PM
Sirscrapalot Patriot wins the picture... 06-14-2014, 06:40 PM
ThatTubaDude Pics 06-14-2014, 07:36 PM
sawmilleng Hi, Patriot, Whats the... 06-14-2014, 11:33 PM
Patriot76 Sawmilling, sorry for the... 06-18-2014, 04:02 AM
sawmilleng Thanks, Patriot, I guess... 06-18-2014, 12:22 PM
jiffy117 For ROI it is how much you... 06-18-2014, 01:11 PM
Patriot76 Saw - Jiffy is correct. My... 06-18-2014, 05:00 PM
Patriot76 Saw, based on your comments... 06-21-2014, 09:49 PM
Patriot76 Wanted to also add, the... 06-26-2014, 04:23 PM
Patriot76 Wanted to finish the story on... 06-26-2014, 04:13 PM
Patriot76 We have been struggling with... 06-29-2014, 01:10 PM
Yunkman Interesting. I'm reminded... 06-29-2014, 01:49 PM
spinroch Single phase is what you have... 06-29-2014, 01:53 PM
spinroch Patriot76: Did my explanation... 07-02-2014, 04:22 PM
Sirscrapalot The Spin is smart. The Spin... 07-02-2014, 05:00 PM
spinroch Methinks 07-03-2014, 09:19 AM
Patriot76 Made it back to the ranch... 07-03-2014, 09:38 AM
miked My brother used to... 07-03-2014, 01:40 PM
Patriot76 Thank you for the information... 07-04-2014, 05:20 AM
pjost Patriot, I was part of the... 07-04-2014, 05:50 AM
Patriot76 Thanks Pjost. That's is neat... 07-04-2014, 06:35 AM
Sirscrapalot HEY! HEY! On my coast,... 07-04-2014, 01:23 PM
Patriot76 Yes there is a huge excavator... 07-19-2014, 04:32 PM
Patriot76 http://i1277.photobucket.com/a... 07-20-2014, 01:11 PM
Patriot76 And now what it looks like... 07-20-2014, 01:16 PM
Patriot76 This is our next challenge, a... 07-20-2014, 01:20 PM
Patriot76 This is the view from the... 07-20-2014, 01:23 PM
Patriot76 This series of pictures are... 08-04-2014, 06:24 AM
Patriot76 We are on the top floor of... 07-20-2014, 01:09 PM
Patriot76 Back at the ranch for a short... 08-04-2014, 06:00 AM
Patriot76 The challenge is slowly... 08-31-2014, 04:45 PM
DakotaRog WoW Patriot, you make SD... 08-31-2014, 06:31 PM
sawmilleng Hi, Patriot, I got a... 08-31-2014, 08:32 PM
Patriot76 Saw, since you were the... 09-01-2014, 01:33 PM
sawmilleng Patriot, I understand. I... 09-01-2014, 05:53 PM
Patriot76 It has been pointed out how... 11-26-2014, 10:51 AM
Patriot76 Another picture of moving... 11-26-2014, 10:58 AM
Patriot76 We had to move a huge... 11-26-2014, 11:03 AM
Patriot76 These pictures show the last... 11-26-2014, 11:08 AM
Patriot76 A view of the bottom of the... 11-26-2014, 11:12 AM
Patriot76 This is the second exit point... 11-26-2014, 11:16 AM
Lukey I'm really enjoying this... 11-29-2014, 12:07 AM
Patriot76 Exposure was an... 11-29-2014, 03:58 PM
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Patriot76 Found a few more pictures to... 11-29-2014, 03:52 PM
ruben23 This has to be one of the... 12-19-2014, 01:32 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    Just a little something about the puzzles you'll face.
    Construction and demolition are near identical, although maybe in reverse order.
    I just wanted to tell you my trick for sorting things out, although it may be already well known to you. In case it isn't, I'd like to offer it to you now.
    Something like the job you've been given, maybe you have the plans, maybe they've made the charts for time frames, but you'll still have unknowns, maybe multiples in your case. You have a lot to deal with there I know.
    I'm just talking about simple basics, and not getting lost. Somebody dumps a truckload of bolts and beams in your yard with no instructions, what do you do? Where do you start?
    Simply sort it out, and take the parts you do know(that's my whole point here, the parts you do know or can figure), when you get those ones sorted out, the unknowns will most times sort themselves, and fit right in (or fall into place, as the case may be)

    Something else just came to mind(not wanting to change the subject, or distract from my intended point) but there's a lot of weight up there, which you'll be cutting. There is a lot of energy stored in that dead weight, it is ruled by gravity. As you release that weight from it's moorings, gravity will turn it into energy, until it finds it's next resting place(safely, we hope). I'll liken it to felling a large tree for firewood. After it's found its resting place on the ground, there is still immense energy stored in every limb, and as you whittle each limb it releases the energy slowly. You build up blocking under the trunk to support it from underneath as you whittle away the weight(energy) from above, in small slices. By the time you get to the immense trunk, although it's much heavier than the energy laden limbs once above it, it has very little energy left, and can be more easily and safely cut and removed.

    You'll have a lot of puzzles to solve, start with what you know; and a lot of energy to release, bring it down safely; and a lot of things to think about, don't let me distract you : )
    Thank you Bear. Your words of wisdom will benefit many on the forum. You have captured the entire project in simplistic terms (that means that I can understand it). Your insights are well taken and respected. You are right, in order to disassemble something you need to figure out how it was assembled. This is true for all scrappers, from those using a magnifying glass to those using semi's, it is valuable insight.



    Case in point, the boilers in this plant are 10 stories tall. After 20 trips inside the building, knowledge of the support system had to be explained by the guy that ran the crane to set them. Todd paid to have the retired crane operator fly to Omaha to go through the plant with us to explain how it was built. The boilers are supported by the ceiling. It pays to do your homework. The interior of the plant was built first and then the outside structure was built around it. We did just the opposite when I was building saw mills.

    Your example of cutting a tree is fantastic. All torch men will be reminded constantly the metal is stressed on the first cut. This was learned on the water tanks. It was also reinforced in the torch training that was attended. You can read the metal as you are cutting it to determine where it is going and where the stress is coming from. I offered to cut and run machinery on this project, but this was denied because someone needs to be constantly reading the metal. Time for reading glasses. And thanks again.
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