Here in Oz we have a free site similar to what I imagine CL is called Gumtree. It's actually owned by Fleabay and I think they purposefully keep it somewhat disorganised and hard to navigate so people go pay Fleabays fee.
Lately I have tried to sell a few cars on there. I have moved a few but some just seem to bring morons and imbeciles out of the woodwork.
The last one was a very nice and fully optioned Subaru Liberty Turbo. Very stock, got it off an old guy who had blown the motor and didn't have the readies to repair it. I bought it at a good price, replaced the cooked heads and crook bearings and Crankshaft and it was a real nice car, quiet and well equipped car. Put it on gum tree for a very reasonable price to get rid of it simply because I could sell it cheap and still make good $$ out of it.
Bugger me!
I must have had no less than 50 brainless idiots text me ( WTF is it people can't Ring anymore?) and the first and generally only thing they asked was if I would take $xxx less for the thing? Most were stupid offers and some would come at 2 am in the morning with a follow up the next day with them getting ****ty I hadn't responded like I owed it to them to waste my time. One guy Texted ( of course) then rang about 10 min later saying indignantly that I hadn't got back to him. I told him, I'm 50 not 15 and don't live my life with my phone constantly in one hand and the thing under the pillow or beside the bed. That put him in the back foot a bit and of course he made me a lowball offer. I said no thainks, I have had plenty of enquiries, I'll hold it for now but if you see the ad still there in a week RING me back and we'll talk.
Then he gets irratated and says he has to pay for a plane ticket from interstate and petrol to drive it back. I say nothing for a bit and then say " So WTF difference do you think that makes to me? I don't care if your coming from Timbucktoo and going Mars, not up to me to finace your travel arrangements. Guy seems taken aback and then snivels, Oh, well if you don't want to sell me your car then..... I said I already told you that moron and just hung up.
I get another text off the same guy with a different name attached but same number ( Einstein this guy) with a somewhat better offer. I just responded with " Already Sold" I then within second get a response saying he would have paid me full price and why didn't I let him know before I sold it?
Drugs. Just say no. If you don't, you'll end up like this space Cadet.
It just does my head in why the first thing these people ask over anything else is will you take some ridicilous amount less? They never ask about condition or anything else , just price. That firstly makes me 99% sure they are wankers and not genuine buyers and secondly, they make me wonder why they even waste their time asking if they have no intention of buying the thing.
I had one guy ring for another car recently who did seem to ask the right questions and was in a gut busting rush to come see the thing 2.5 weeks after I first listed it. He shows up in double quick time allright goes over the car throughly. He asks some snied questions and has a real " I'm better than you attirtude" which gets right up my nose. I'm irratated more than a bit but laugh it off cause I want to sell the thing although as he goes on with his upstaart attitude I'm starting to look for the opportunity to tell him to forget about it.
He makes some other remark about the car and then says he'll take it now and is Cash OK? I said it's the only thing that's OK. The guy says Indignantly " Yeah thought it might be". I look and say well I do have a cretit card facility for my business I can bring out for you but if you want to use that, it will cost you all the bank fees and you can't have the car for 10 days till I know your card has cleared and isn't dodgy." That calms him down a bit.
I go in get the rego papers and tell the Mrs the snot nosed upstart is going to take the car for the asking price. I tell her if he hadn[t I would have sent him packing with his Holier than thou attitude.
My wife has comes out and being a Cashier in a business that handles major money, she says she'll the count the cash while I'm filling in the paper work. He hands her the cash, she looks at it and says to me, How much did you sell it for? I tell her and she says well I can see theres not enough here! It's a mixture of denominations folded but she isn't head cashier where she is for nothing and sees the shortfall straight off by looking at the bundle.
He looks at me and says he " Only" has 3K less than what I'm asking and thats close enough?
I'm sure my jaw hit the ground. For a minute I literally didn't think I heard right! I looked at my wife and she must have seen my stunned look and just held her hand up and said " Just take it easy, it's OK, I'll handle it. " She gives the money back to the guy and says "You either give me the missing $3k or I suggest you leave now" and points to the gate. I Look at my wife and ask Did he just say he's $3k short but didn't mention that till now? She's saying its ok and again pointing out the yard and saying to the guy Go, now, just go. I look at him and say I advise you run because you have two seconds and then I'm coming after you to teach you some manners your arrogant *&%##!.
You can call me a lot of names and throw a lot of abuse at me and it's water off a ducks back but if you really want to get under my skin and take me isntantly to the end of my temper, that's a really good way to insult me and get there!
Some years ago I had 2 old mercs. I used to get an average of about 3 people a month just knocking on the door asking if I wanted to sell them. They were Old and not in good nick at all but it was like they were Gold plated rollers or something. One got really rusty and the motor went on the other. I pulled the good engine out of the rusty one then my wife decided she had enough of the Mercs and wanted something else. The cars sat up the back of the neighbours driveway where she let me keep them and some guys came a knocking wanting to buy them. They wanted to know how much I wanted for them and I asked what they were prepared to offer but typicaly they wouldn't give a figure and even more predictably than sunrise, when I said $500 for the pair they gasped in shock and horror...... And Immeadieatly offered me an insulting figure. I looked at the older ringleader and said, If you are going to insult me or take me for an idiot, pi$$ off now. He agin looked all shocked and apologised and came back with another lowball. I said if you want to leave your name and number, I'm going to put them on fleabay and if I don't get the $500 I'll ring you and we'll see what we can work out.
You always know when people are yanking your chain because they point out everything thats wrong with the cars but hang around talking. This guy just kept coming back with lowball offers untill I got the ****s and said to forget about it, $500 or nothing and don't waste my time. I started walking off with the guy still throwing numbers and telling me that was all he had etc. I got to the front step and he said ok then $500. I said Cash money and don't have a cent less. Yeah yeah, OK, he'll come back with the money and pick the cars up tomorrow. He wanted to leave a deposit which I declined. I said cash in full in 24 hours or I'll sell them to the next person that comes along with the money. Ok.
So he wants to give me his name and number and a deposit still which I refuse and hands me back the paper with his details and says " are you sure you won't take $450?" at this point I loose it and clearly scare the fool.
He comes back the next day, 2 hours earlier than we arrange that I would be home from work and takes one car and my daughter rings me telling me they are loading the other one on the trailer. She said she already asked them for the money but they said they are going to bring it back. Pigs arse.
Shes on the phone to me and spots my neighbour coming home from work and rushes up to him and tells him whats going on and he comes down and confronts the guys. Luckily hes no fool and tells them, you're not leaving without I have the cash. They try to argue but he's like me and not blessed with the best of tempers either so they pay up and leave in a hurry. My daughter said she really thought he was going to belt one of them.
I went up and thanked him when I got home and he was quite jovial about it.
He said it was his pleasure to put some scumbags and BS artists in their place.
People are just without any moral standards or honour these days. Clearly these dropkicks were intending to steal the cars by taking them without payment. I don't know what good it would have done them, the guy gave me a genuine land line number and I went past and saw one of the cars in the driveway so I would have found them. Why they told my Daughter and neighbour they would bring the money back when they had it on them when push came to shove only amounts to one thing... They were planing to steal them.
Dealing with people these days is a nightmare. It seems everyone is out to rip you off or screw you over and I wouldn't trust anyone. Especialy the ones that get indignant and say " Don't you trust me?"
**** straight I don't.
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Originally Posted by sledge
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