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    I don't know about this. A blob of gold and a bag of dust. You need to get these checked to see if they are what they say they are! I love the idea but would think they could make bars or something at least stamped with purity on them. (even then you need to get them checked). I hope I am wrong but it seems too good!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    I don't know about this. A blob of gold and a bag of dust. You need to get these checked to see if they are what they say they are! I love the idea but would think they could make bars or something at least stamped with purity on them. (even then you need to get them checked). I hope I am wrong but it seems too good!
    I didn't want to say it but u said it for me.........I would be running to someone who could test the material for purity

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    I will buy your gold at 95% spot price depending on how much you have...and let you know how pure it is and let a 3ed party do an audit on all records/testing.
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    I can test it myself. The palladium arrived as dust because it was .88 grams, not enough for a button and that was in the paperwork. It makes sense, I depopped the boards ahead of time. And I meant FERROUS bracketry and screws. I had already removed aluminum and so forth. All material arrived in it's purist testable form for me according to my amazon derived testing kit. The gold passed the 24k acid test with perfection. (I know it's not perfect but hey) I have no doubt it's weight and purity are exactly as prescribed that sort of thing is lawsuit material. I remove MLCCs and Ta Caps so I was surprised I received palladium at all let alone platinum. The gold arrived in buttons by lot, they separated that at my request.

    I have to say, im a pessimist when it comes to business dealing all the time anyways so this was pleasant for me to have a good turn around. The material arrived at their door with connectors simply trimmed off, and lots of plastic bits they said nothing about. It wasn't really an ideal situation for either of us I suppose but I still had a good return. As for copper? Well how much could have been recovered? 100-120lbs I would suppose...I sent a major amount of material. But it's not like it was otherwise recoverable so I'm happy enough with that. I have a personal account for average returns by weight for SOME of the material now so at least I know what to expect if I deal with them again and it doesn't come back as expected. I emailed them today to notify them of another load and they responded with a process time of six to eight weeks this time. I expect that, I was a first time customer with these guys and the quick turn around was probably to give me a good feeling about the process.

    Also...shhh I was trying to be semi-sneaky about the names and places.

    The alternative is that I start refining myself...me and chemicals...hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armygreywolf View Post
    I can test it myself. The palladium arrived as dust because it was .88 grams, not enough for a button and that was in the paperwork. It makes sense, I depopped the boards ahead of time. And I meant FERROUS bracketry and screws. I had already removed aluminum and so forth. All material arrived in it's purist testable form for me according to my amazon derived testing kit. The gold passed the 24k acid test with perfection. (I know it's not perfect but hey) I have no doubt it's weight and purity are exactly as prescribed that sort of thing is lawsuit material. I remove MLCCs and Ta Caps so I was surprised I received palladium at all let alone platinum. The gold arrived in buttons by lot, they separated that at my request.

    I have to say, im a pessimist when it comes to business dealing all the time anyways so this was pleasant for me to have a good turn around. The material arrived at their door with connectors simply trimmed off, and lots of plastic bits they said nothing about. It wasn't really an ideal situation for either of us I suppose but I still had a good return. As for copper? Well how much could have been recovered? 100-120lbs I would suppose...I sent a major amount of material. But it's not like it was otherwise recoverable so I'm happy enough with that. I have a personal account for average returns by weight for SOME of the material now so at least I know what to expect if I deal with them again and it doesn't come back as expected. I emailed them today to notify them of another load and they responded with a process time of six to eight weeks this time. I expect that, I was a first time customer with these guys and the quick turn around was probably to give me a good feeling about the process.

    Also...shhh I was trying to be semi-sneaky about the names and places.

    The alternative is that I start refining myself...me and chemicals...hmmm.

    GOOD DEAL.......So you did or didn't get copper??........Was that part of the deal they kept the copper.........I am not trying to bring you down just interested............However you sell is your biz..........Just interesting stuff instead of the same old threads about how to break down a computer or how much is each computer worth (LOL)

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    The alternative is that I start refining myself...me and chemicals...hmmm.
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    yes they kept the copper. I don't think it's financially viable for them otherwise. I didn't get a weight on copper but I know that the trace, legs and so on can get pretty heavy. Even a chinese motherboard can have several ounces of copper trace. (not always but some motherboards are six or even ten layers of circuit trace.

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    Till next time. I will ressurect the thread around October or so when I get the next batch of material back. We should have a good handle on company reputation by then.

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    In the next load are you sending the same material? If possible you may want to send them material that you think had a high yield in the first load and see how that comes out a second time around. I am a pessimist also when it comes to business dealings, especially when it comes to refining. I would ask them why the longer turn around time on the second load?

    I know of two other scrappers that had nice returns on first loads and then the second one is where they got bent over with no lube. I wish you luck in your next transaction and look forward to how your next transaction goes.
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    On GRF, a couple of people used this crowd and had the diminishing results as mentioned by BC above (a couple of years ago now). First shipment was great, second shipment drastically down on the first, then a third shipment had them feeling a bit ripped (I am using a pleasant paraphrase).
    It sounds like common practice for them to get people hooked by the first, quick and generous return, then the true colours come out on any subsequent shipments to them.

    It's the platinum that really interests me here, since you are removing all (or the majority of) smd components on the boards.
    What components are you leaving on that have enough platinum in them to make a button, when there isnt enough palladium left to do the same ??
    I have to wonder where this platinum is coming from, I do so much research into what elements are in electronic components, but I couldnt even guess where your platinum came from in trace amounts, let alone enough to make a button.

    The amount of silver I understand, it has been used in solder more and more these days. Manufacturers recognised there were less soldering defects like dry joints when using silver doped solders, so almost all have adopted the use of it.

    If you can tell me where these platinum bearing components are in electronic components, you might make me quite rich, and you will become a superstar on GRF
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    I have no idea...my only guess is that I had a big bag of read heads I normally give to Mudlucky ( by big I mean BIG) but hadn't had the time to setup a drop off date with him. I suspect the platinum was in some of the surface mount components of the graphics cards. It returned off that lot and the lcd logic boards. I depoped ta caps and mlccs off of...half or more of the stuff I came across. I had bags and bags of bluetooth chips that failed QC at a local e-waste pickup, platinum returned from that too. Eaton corp had solid state drive controllers (kind of bulky) that also failed QC so I had some high density flatback boards and some RFID stuff too. Yanno...it's really difficult for me to finger where the platinum came from... I also had a pile of business phone corded and cordless boards...a big pile I won an auction of about 200 of these.

    Way I figure it...these are things I wouldn't get from a standard gold return anyways. The silver was a seriously heavy amount that impressed me and made me realize in some cases the silver is a higher return than gold...as it happens.
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    I think the wee brown block capactors have platinum and silver in them

    I thought they were tantis and picked off about a small coffe cup of them before relising they have no tantium in there..

    Same with the metellic grey blocks on the G5 macks, thought it was a tanti cap, nah... Its just forged ferrite with a copper coil inside...
    The things we learn.. duh.

    Yeah it'd be worth it if I had a board stripper, chemicals and a 1/2 million $ sorting machine to sort the parts with.

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    If you still have those brown SMD caps Eesa, I would buy them off you. I have around 7Kg now, but need more as I will be recovering and refining them.

    Awesome info Hobo, thats the best elemental breakdown I have seen yet. It says there wasnt any Pt at all, and that was a 1996 unit.


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