Closing throat, severe swelling, and hypotension.

**Copper Head** · 08-22-2014, 04:26 PM

If the head line of post has you interested , Now it's time to learn to be cautious around bees
wile at work I hit upon a swarm of yellow Jacket Bees about 20 or 30 chasing me and hitting me like dive bombers
after the stings the normal Macho response from me was darn bees . I brushed it off and lets get back to work.

Well Mother nature had something in store for me . I went to the customers home and said I been stung by bees and I know I have a problem

I sat on couch and said PLEASE call 911 , then I passed out . EMT came and I woke up . I was sweating profusely , felt like a wet noddle
shallow breath . swollen feet , Blood presser 80 / 120 , There was concern , and was told flat out we have to take you to hospital ,
On the way to Hosp. I heard an EMT say to driver better step on it.
The whole incident was like a twilight experience of sensations never felt before, waves of flushing heat .
I convinced my self don't die .
Blood pressure did stabilize normal after 5 hrs . Like a trooper I checked out 8 hours later against Dr's advice but I feel OK+

and now before 6 pm I am gonna hit the yard

**msmoorad** · 08-22-2014, 04:46 PM

maybe u should charge for hazard pay when doing jobs like that.

sometimes customers know theres hornets etc & conveniently leave out telling us about this
and then they act surprised when something happens

**Sirscrapalot** · 08-22-2014, 05:04 PM

My wife is allergic to bees an the like, so I always got one of those pens with me.

She's all allergic to a lot of common meds like penicillin, etc. also to boot.

Watch out for them bee stings according to the news..buzz..they can be serious bzzzzness.

Sirscrapalot - Several puns were harmed in the making of this post.

**BRASSCATCHER** · 08-22-2014, 05:22 PM

You need to get an Eppy pen asap!!! Glad your ok and back on your feet!!!

Still hatin' NCers!!!!!

**easyrecycle** · 08-22-2014, 05:34 PM

Yea, I kinda know how that feels when my body was on a path of self destruction. Just smart that you stopped when you had and seek help before passing out in the field. Also this is a good time to bring up the topic when working out in the remote...its good to have a work partner for events like this.

Always work safe (give me your address I will send you some bug repellent lol)

**eesakiwi** · 08-23-2014, 12:39 AM

A couple of things about bees and scrapping.

First, I always wondered why I would be the only person in whatever group of people I was with, to get stung by a bee.
This happened about 8 times. I have never seen someone else stung by a bee in decades.

But then, one day on the web, I find out that, clove oil is a bee attractant and anger activator....
My favorite brand of underarm deodorant contains lots of clove oil....

Ah ha!

I also find out that proper almond oil (benzaldehyde) (bitter almond oil, is hard to get, its a possible drug precursor)
Is a bee deterrent. It helps keep them away.

Second.
After doing a lot of scrapping, my hands started to get hard and sore, puffed up a bit and generally difficult to use.
This was starting to be a problem, so I got some moisturizer with little relief.
Then one day I pick up a bumble bee (soooo cute) from inside to take it outside to let it go free.
I have never been stung while doing this, I tell the bee what's going to happen and they are fine with that.

But this one stung me! Just a little. Not enough to loose its stinger, so it stayed alive. Just a bite and it flew away.
Ouch, its ok though.
Then next morning my hands don't hurt, freer and more mobile. Weird.

Then I clicked about the bee sting.
My workmate on a job told me once, "when he was 12, he started to feel bad, hurt all over and sore joints etc.
His mum took him to the Doc, who said he had early onset arthritis, and maybe if he started working with bees, the bee stings he gets may fix his joints.
Doc siad he would be in a wheelchair by his late 20s anyway.
So he got a summer job with his uncle, a bee keeper. The got him a longer term job.

That fixed his arthritis, he's as fit as a fiddle, plays rugby, if you see NZ television, he's on a tv add, running...
This is 2 decades later. Still well.

So, a bee sting may be a Godsend to all rheumy people. My hands feel like they need another sting though..

So, if yah gonna come in contact with bees, make sure you are not wearing any deodernt with clove or clove like perfumes in it.
If possible, get bee deterrent, find a beekeeper who knows where to get the 'good stuff'.

And Copperhead, look forward to some 'loose joints'

**Pnutfarmer** · 08-23-2014, 12:54 AM

First, hey, glad you got medical attention and got straightened out.

Second, wow I didn't know that about the clove oil or arthritis cure. I'm going to tell one of my friends about this. I guess he can start wearing clove oil deororant while doing road work and maybe a few bees will come by and cure his arthritis for him.

**Copper Head** · 08-23-2014, 02:50 AM

Yeah I heard about Bee sting therapy / some people with MS have been able to walk. In my case I was hit by too many. The Venom is still in me I feel it .
Who knows I might feel better then ever in a few days.

Still - 2 liters of fluids . Oxygen tube in my nose ,laying there like a helpless victim. Na this took me down , amazing the power of mother natures creatures

I firmly believe that wile some nest are of a species .these were genera Vespula a Wasp . This nest was of a very hearty variety . Just like some people are stronger then others . These were vibrant and rather large looking.

**Pnutfarmer** · 08-23-2014, 09:39 AM

Yes it is amazing that something so much smaller than you can be so dangerous. We all have to be careful with these things.

I currently have two swarms of honey bees at my house that came in last week from who knows where. One is in our electrical box out at the light pole, the other is taking up residence in our hot tub. I have to figure out how to get rid of them now.

**pawpaw** · 08-23-2014, 11:23 AM

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got hit with one wasp yesterdasy on forearm dont usally bother me but this one put a knot in my arm and still aches

**Copper Head** · 08-23-2014, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Pnutfarmer

Yes it is amazing that something so much smaller than you can be so dangerous. We all have to be careful with these things.

I currently have two swarms of honey bees at my house that came in last week from who knows where. One is in our electrical box out at the light pole, the other is taking up residence in our hot tub. I have to figure out how to get rid of them now.

Honey bees are vey important , CALL a bee keeper they will for free pick them up . Don't kill them . Natural Honey Bees are in Decline .

Originally Posted by pawpaw

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got hit with one wasp yesterday on forearm don't usually bother me but this one put a knot in my arm and still aches

Just picture getting hit by 20 of them

**junkfreak** · 08-23-2014, 12:39 PM

Been there! Scary experience. Glad your OK! But the work must go on. Lol. "Iam gonna be a happy idiot and struggle for that legal tender" Jackson Browne

**MattInTheHat** · 08-23-2014, 01:19 PM

bee spray is not very effective on honey bees and if you use it, the beekeepers won't want your bees. you may even find ads on capitalist about free honey bee removal

**Mechanic688** · 08-23-2014, 02:14 PM

After the sting grab a couple of tomato leaves and squeeze/crush them and use the juice to dab on the sting, it will neutralize the pain and swelling. Old family remedy.

**Pnutfarmer** · 08-23-2014, 02:57 PM

copper head..... yeah I really didn't want to have to kill them. As you know I'm a farmer and bees are very important to us. I'm going to leave the swarm alone that is in the electric box. I just can't leave the ones on the back deck. Today, I had the second beekeeper here. He just left sadly with no way to get the ones under the hot tub. He said he even has a bee trap to get the workers, but with no way to get to the queen, he can't get them. We even took the panels off the side of the hot tub and took one plank out of the deck. No way to get to them. I just wish they'd go down below my house and set up a hive in an old water truck I have there.

**jmerritt** · 08-23-2014, 03:53 PM

i always put a little gasoline in a spray bottle. then set the nozzle to spray.
so far that has worked pretty good on bee's and wasps.

**Sirscrapalot** · 08-23-2014, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Pnutfarmer

Yes it is amazing that something so much smaller than you can be so dangerous. We all have to be careful with these things.

I currently have two swarms of honey bees at my house that came in last week from who knows where. One is in our electrical box out at the light pole, the other is taking up residence in our hot tub. I have to figure out how to get rid of them now.

1 can of Hair Spray + 1 Torch/lighter/something that makes fire = No more nests, hives, etc.

Use common sense tho..lol.

Some funny videos out there of people being stupid with this method.

Oh an..seems beekeepers like to use torches. Don't ask me how I find the things I do..

Blowtorch - Beekeeping Forum

Sirscrapalot - Just staying bzzzy.

**Pnutfarmer** · 08-23-2014, 04:22 PM

I'm kind of leery of using a flamethrower on part of my house though.

**Sirscrapalot** · 08-23-2014, 04:28 PM

Thats where that part about common sense comes in Pnut.

I don't suggest using it indoors. You may find options on the beekeeper forum also that don't involve flame. lol.

Either way good luck, if i had bee's in my hot tub I'd be declaring war. Otherwise..I just ignore the insect critters. They don't bother me, I don't go all vengeful wrath of god on them.

Sirscrapalot - Stick a couple bugs on tooth picks by your windows or in the yard, an watch the others cower from you!

**bigburtchino** · 08-23-2014, 06:14 PM

Sorry to hear about your yellow jacket incident, hope your back at 100% capacity soon. My landscape, tree crews and even construction crews have "mother nature" attacks. We get them all, bee's, yellow jackets, wasp, fire ants, snakes, rats, dogs and squirrels. Yes a squirrel can be a problem, when your attached to a tree and your forty feet in the air, the squirrel is pissed and letting you know he is! We keep a product for the reaction to stings in our first aid kits. Don't have it in front me, but we buy it at Grainger, a must have for us. Also we keep aerosol spray cans of Wasp & Hornet Killer (made by Spectracide) in every truck. This is very effective at killing wasp, hornets, yellow jackets, scorpions, spiders, and fire ants. Will spray 25 to 30 feet shooting a solid stream of deadly insecticide. Kills them on contact and kills any insect returning to nest for the next 24 hours (good stuff/highly recommend) for those working outdoors. We prefer to not kill anything ourselves if possible. We use a service that specializes in removal and release/relocate animals, insects and reptiles. They kill them if it's not practical or to dangerous.

WE NEVER KILL BEES - PERIOD! Bees play a very important role in natures life cycle. Without bees we would all soon find ourselves very hungry. Please don't kill bees, there are many alternative, starting with "YOU CAN DO THE JOB ON ANOTHER DAY". We only have one planet and the bees are needed for the propagation of most plants (including most fruits and vegetables). Bees actually are very stable to work with if you understand them. The last couple of hours of daylight (two hours before nightfall), bees will return to their hive. Don't mess with them and they usually will leave you alone (even when they land on you). What really gets them stirred-up any high pitched noise near their hive. This could be a saw (electric or gas), lawnmower, vacuum cleaner, leaf blower, chain saw etc., these noise will agitate and make them attack you (this is if a hive is near). If you have a large hive around your home or business. Call a professional and have them relocated. Almost all counties and large cities have a "Vector Control" or similar agency that deals with nuisance wildlife (rats to mosquitoes and bees too!). Bees are having a hard enough time surviving, air pollution and biological conditions have greatly reduced the bee population. They need to be protected at least until the populations reestablishes itself. There are lots of different bee species, other than the common honey bee, most are in danger, so for now try to let them live.

They say all things living have a purpose. I don't know who "they" are, as for RATS - KILL THEM! I hate rats and can't see any useful purpose. "They" don't know what "they" are talking about! KILL RATS!

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