big argument today with another scrapper whom i know personally

its summer here in South Africa
and in Durban, the humidity is worse than Florida

anyways, im standing outside the non ferrous section, in line with copper, brass, cast alum, stainless -all the non ferrous
i was helping a friend strip some aircons & other stuff for the last two days
& we made a deal that we will split whatever we get equally

theres this man in his late 50's who has been doing scrap for over 10 yrs
hes a bit of a loudmouth & is quite agressive-has a nasty temper



(he is also a muslim like me- he comes to the same mosque as me- we live about 500m away)

he comes to the weighbridge scale- he weighs his steel & shred
has his assistant get off with bags of non ferrous
and tells the guy at the scale of the non ferrous section to weigh his stuff

mind you
he came in last & theres about 8 people in line before him

my friend was standing in line next to me
this old man barges into the non ferrous section & sits next to the girl who is operating the computer
-another guy operates the scales

knowing his character & temper
i tell him his in a polite tone "were all in line here"

and then he blows up:
"what the Fu** must i do?"
"good for you if youre in line"
"dont mind my FU***ng business"

i told him that he came in last & he is supposed to go to the back of the line

he is like
"FU** You!"

then things got ugly
he threatened to call his sons to beat me up
said i will leave in body bag....

i told him that if he is a man- then its between me & him
and he should come out & try whatever he wants to do
or thinks he can do

long story short- i made sure he weighed his stuff after me
if others dont want to open their mouths- that their problem but he cant do that to me
not after im standing in the sun waiting my turn

now i have to deal with repercussions among the muslim people of the area who come to the mosque

already he told people in the area today that he has an "agreement" where he does not have to wait in line
so i should not worry about him & what he does

the guy who told me this is this old mans neighbour & relative
"yes, u know, u should understand that this guy also has other things to do besides scrap. he cant stand in line and wait for so long"
??!!!

they can go f**k themselves
fair is fair.


RANT OVER

I love it when someone is so arrogant and Self-righteous that when you call them out on there actions that they get mad at you. I stick up for my self and those around me. My wife says its going to get me killed but I refuse to be walked on! Although I do weigh the situation when I have her or the kids with me not trying to get them hurt.

now i have to deal with repercussions among the Muslim people of the area who come to the mosque

Seems to me, he should have to deal with repercussions among the Muslim people of the area who come to your mosque.
He certainly is not following the teachings & beliefs of the Muslim Faith.
Your time is just as valuable as his.

I don't know of exclusive agreements at yards for that. At our yard, even the yard's own trucks will wait in line.

If there is a list though, and he's on it, it should be posted where employees can see it.

I hope the other people in the community treat you well after this. Sometimes little issues can heat up real quickly!

Originally Posted by Hypoman

punch him in the face

I second this! Nothing like some clown who thinks his time is more valuable than yours.

lets see what happens
im just going to ignore it

if he makes a move, then its on him

spoke to a few people at the mosque just now
everyone supports me

but said i should be careful with him
hes nasty

thanks for the support though

I would think that the people of your faith would value the virtue of humility. Pride ... the opposite of humility, is considered one of the seven deadly sins by some Christian faiths. I believe that Islam translates to submission before Allah ?

It's hot and that brings out in the worst in people sometimes. It also shows them for their true colors. It would appear that the faith has done nothing to foster that old man's spiritual growth if he has become so arrogant & self righteous as to put himself before all others.

In my tradition I can call a tribunal before the elders to resolve matters like these when they come up. All parties to the dispute are summoned, the elders listen impartially to everyone's side of the story, and render a verdict. Their verdict is final and the matter is considered to be resolved.

Please pardon me because i'm not as familiar with the three main faiths that originated from the G-d of Abraham ....

Is there a similar custom among your people MSM ?

Originally Posted by Scrappah

I would think that the people of your faith would value the virtue of humility. Pride ... the opposite of humility, is considered one of the seven deadly sins by some Christian faiths. I believe that Islam translates to submission before Allah ?

It's hot and that brings out in the worst in people sometimes. It also shows them for their true colors. It would appear that the faith has done nothing to foster that old man's spiritual growth if he has become so arrogant & self righteous as to put himself before all others.

In my tradition I can call a tribunal before the elders to resolve matters like these when they come up. All parties to the dispute are summoned, the elders listen impartially to everyone's side of the story, and render a verdict. Their verdict is final and the matter is considered to be resolved.

Please pardon me because i'm not as familiar with the three main faiths that originated from the G-d of Abraham ....

Is there a similar custom among your people MSM ?

no, ur right
the imam of the mosque was telling me the same thing

also that it does not look good when we do things like this in public
we should be setting a good example for others

It is a fact some yards will give certain customers lets say little bonuses, but the yard boss should be out there when this happens,
I can tell you that my trucks my house trucks, went in before any one in line thats just the way it was.