We all have been had! By a wile old scrapper.
Piece of cake!
About two pounds of clean yellow brass.
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We all have been had! By a wile old scrapper.
Piece of cake!
About two pounds of clean yellow brass.
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It's a poorly designed yo-yo.
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What do the stamps say?
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There's alot of brain power on Yesterday's Tractor forum. I'd guess it's a part off of something much more complex as it doesn't seem to
reveal a purpose in itself.
Yesterday's Tractors - Discussion Forums
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Thanks for all the ideas folks!! I'll suggest to trappintime to check out the old tractors forum. He'd like that if he's not a member already...
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Any updates?
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yes i'm curious what the darn thing is also...
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I've spent a stupid amount of time searching the 'net for something that looked even vaguely like it but no dice. Searched the number group that looks a little like a part number, too. Batted zero there, too.
I've been wondering if any of our ex military guys or other knowledgeable guys may have a clue as to the stamp that is only half legible but could be construed to be two crossed anchors or crossed shovels inside of a circle....
Jon.
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I thought for a while it held fuzes myself, it made sense but I don't think it's big enough to hold more than 3 or 4.
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My first thought and I still lean towards a instrument or part of a instrument. I lean towards Naval type, as it is more red then yellow brass, making it what I would call "Naval Brass". I was in the Navy, but a Aviator, not a "black shoe" sailor, not very familiar with that type of "Navy Brass". The knurled knobs, the stamping are of the type that reminds me of calibration/QA stamping that would identify a inspection process. All leaning me still towards instruments/machinery parts. The fact that brass does not cause a spark, also adds to my thinking. The non sparking could also take one into the Naval arms area of gun powders and they would have QA stamps as well. This still has me searching too!
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I haven't seen trappintime talk about it for a while. He was going to weigh it but I never heard. I'll bug him again about the total weight. Maybe that will help. Otherwise, we just need to get it to Pawn Stars, they either know everything or have an expert who does
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tt weighed the brass thingy and it is 2 lbs. 12 oz., I suppose about evenly split between the two main pieces. I wonder if there is a "fan club" of the U.S. Patent Office where people have a forum specifically to figure out what old time stuff is. I'll check it out today...
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I'd say gun powder holder for a musket, Probably they'd put the measured amount of gun powder in one of these and when the person would shoot, they'd have multiple of these take one out, unscrew it and load the powder and then put the ball in. Probably to assist in making the reloading process of a musket quicker as it was up to a minute or two to actually reload one.
And nice to see another trapper on here. I'm more of an amateur trapper, haven't even caught my first fox yet, I caught everything else though!
Owner/Operator @ Stepside Recycling & Refurbishing co.
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Hi Kochy! Good guess but I think this thing is post-Civil War era (I think too much precison machining for that era). Besides Civil War soliders had paper cartridges that held their powder that they would rip off with their teeth and then pour down the barrel. The paper cartridge was a forerunner to the self contained brass & bullet "round" that started appearing by the end of the war (the Union cavalry guys starting getting repeating brass cartridge fed carbines in 1864).
I'm still an "amateur" trapper even though I've been doing it off and on for a number of decades!! The first thing I caught after a muskrat was a reddie fox but we have a lot fewer fox around here because of coyotes, and I'm bad at catching yotes!! This year I didn't even field any leg holds because I didn't get them totally finishe in time and just didn't have the time to run a line more than about 2 hours pre-dawn. We also have little for water in our wetlands so few mrats are around. I have mostly gone after coon the past 2 years. Most wild fur has hit the skids in prices this auction season just like scrap metal but my coon come from the 2 coon "regions" most prized for the trim trade (and I've also learned how to finish them fairly well) so my prices or clearance hasn't dropped as bad as some guys, like you all out in most of PA when it comes to coon "regions". I ship to NAFA and the next auction (the largest one) will be at the end of March. We see how much of a collapse there really is (2 years ago there was near record prices, go figure...).
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some kind of dispenser maybe kinda like this
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A thread dispenser?
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The nodules on either end lead me to believe that it's probably that something was tied to each end with perhaps a string, or was otherwise connected to something that allowed the nodules to hold it in place.
I like the idea of the hole being a dispenser, but as it's not worn, that's probably not the case, and considering the sharp edges would probably cut whatever might be inside, and pulled through.
I think the slot is an air hole, and I think that the rings have been made so that the two pieces can be turned slightly, increasing or decreasing the size of the slot.
The cross hatching on the outside is obviously so that a person could hold either side, and unscrew it. Which also should be noted, there are no threads. This either means it was created or made prior to threading being a method of screwing something together, or threads would somehow get in the way.
I think this was an item that would be tied to a backpack, or clothing by use of strings attached to the nodules on either end, or perhaps buttoned into a piece of clothing or cloth. I think perhaps the inside was filled with some type of plant material, herbs, pine needles, flower petals, potpourri I guess you would call it. In times past this was done for several reasons, specially if hunting. You do not want to smell like soap or something else while hunting as it would spook what you were hunting if your prey caught wind. It could also be used to disguise bad body odor if you were hiking with several friends and had not had the benefit of a shower for days on end while sweating.
The fact it's not made out of plastic, leads me to believe it was not modern, the lack of threading leads me to believe that it was made this way to prevent plant material getting caught in the threads, but the cross hatching on the outside, meant for fingers to be able to grip the metal, lead me to believe it was done during the period of time when most of the western countries were experiencing our industrial revolution. So I would guess this was made sometime in the late 1800s, to early 1900s, prior to the invention of plastic but not prior to milling as this obviously looks milled on the inside.
That's my two cents...
Scott
At the heart of science is an essential balance between two seemingly contradictory attitudes--an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive they may be, and the most ruthless skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new. This is how deep truths are winnowed from deep nonsense. -- Carl Sagan
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I was thinking that it sat horizontally with the knobs resting on a stand. So it can roll, but not move.
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NMW- I think you have the time period down, perhaps even a bit more into the 20th century. I'll tell trappintime about the current posts and see if they spark anything. It is in Canada so it might have more of an European connection than here in the States but that's pure speculation on my part...
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I tried to post it on For identifying unknown objects but I was unable to attach the photos. I did find some photos of miners carbide fueled head lamps that leads me to believe there is more to the item posted. The pics on SMF shows heavy thick brass that would wear longer then possible lighter weight attachments. Maybe someone more computer savvy then I could post photos on the reddit so we can solve this mystery!
CuAl
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