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    Constructions contractors are the worst to haul for, here's why.

    Hello, I just wanted to say first that I know there are probably some construction contractors on the forum and I don't mean to insult any of them. I am just trying to give my experience working with them and maybe this will help others.

    With that said, I do a lot of trash/junk hauls for residential, businesses, and sometimes construction contractors. I feel that when I do a haul for a contractor the pay is always less, its a harder job, and its more wear and tear to truck and equipment due to more weight. I feel that contractors value my service less than a regular business or residential job. I figure it is because they have trucks and equipment to do the job themselves but, they just dont want to do it. I feel they view the guy that hauls the junk away as the least skilled and least important so they dont want to pay a fair price. Contractors always haggle the price and are the only ones that I have had issues with collecting payment (they often take their time to pay or dont pay full amount etc.). It makes sense though, that you would make less because the contractor is working for the customer and you are working for the contractor, the contractor is the middle man and they are always trying to cut costs. I dont blame them for trying to keep costs low but, by the time it comes to pay the last guy that picks up the trash, they can often be unfair. You have to make sure to give an invoice and have something in writing otherwise they may not feel obligated to pay you.



    I have known this for awhile but, it has been more and more clear lately. If I know they are a construction contractor I will bid higher to deter them and if I land the job at least I will make a little more.

    When I do a residential or business pickup I will usually make 2-3 times more in profits than if I do a pickup for a construction contractor. In addition to a better profit, many customers will give a tip. There is a contractor that I have done several jobs for recently and every time when the day is over, it feels like a very mediocre day. He will probably call me again because they are working on a big project and I will just politely tell him that I dont think he is willing to pay what I will be charging and that he might want to shop around.

    I dont mind hard work but, when I can turn down contractors and get paid 2-3 times more working residential, its a no brainer. One benefit to working for a contractor is the potential for repeat business but, if the pay is low why bother. Another benefit is recycling of construction material metals but, with recycle values so low the benefits holds little weight now a days.

    That concludes my rant about contractor. Ironically I plan to get my contractors license next year but, it will just be for hauling/cleanup.

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    i guess i am not big enough to have these problems come up sorry to hear that if i had the type of equipment to haul roll offs and stuff from construction i would have a place big enough to process all them goodies so i would just have them bring it to me for free minus hazard materials but then again since i love ewaste more i would focus more on using that equipment to pick up the easy money minus the sweat blood and tears of electronics lol
    i guess my advice would be to stay clear of these that try and scalp ya and do more res

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    I used to do a lot of work for contractors/house flippers etc.....I agree that they are cheap but provide more steady work.........The residential clean out may be a one time thing or once a year etc...........Yes they are cheap and they always haggle price and the jobs Suck......LOL............

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    I'll kindly disagree and find contractors although shrewd; provide more volume and more consistency. Seperate yourself from other pickup services and they will resoect you and call you back consistently. Alot of our business comes from contractors, you will know quickly whether one is good or bad to work for. Price your services fairly and stick to them let the bad ones fall by the wayside.

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    Don't like em, don't do em. Just sayin. But thanks for the heads up.
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    It's definitally not all contractors. Youve obviously had a few bad experiences though. I feel contractors are a great source of business and as Russell said a lot more consistent and when they have work you do if you connect right.

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    I don't have guys haul for me.. But I'd rather build in the price to the job and profit from my run.. guess I'm in the minority.
    One of the reasons I got into doing contracting work was because I saw the field and thought "I can do better"

    I treat clients like kings
    Anyone every "hired" to do a task, we agree on a price, they get paid.. easy peasy to me. I don't like clients that hang me up on pay.. so I refuse to ever do that to anyone else either.
    Just my .02
    I'm so into scrapping.. When my Steel Toe Boots Wear out, I cut the Steel out of them and recycle the Toe!

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    I worked the construction crews for about fifteen years while i was coming up through. Every crew is different but there's usually a pecking order that gets established based on level of skill and seniority. The unskilled workers aren't very highly valued and are often treated as Dispoz-A-Help. If you're running into attitude it's probably because of the kind of work you're doing. It's nothing personal.

    Cash flow is a problem for most businesses and that's particularly true in construction. What i've found is that my best high end customers are also the slowest to pay. Quite frankly .... it pleases them to screw around and make you wait to get paid. It's a game for them. They like to see what they can get away with. If a contractor is slow to pay the waste hauler (over 45 days ) it's probably because he's waiting to get paid himself.

    Crap falls down the ladder and i've worked for a few contractors that just plain have a mean streak in em'. If they're getting crap from above they make sure everyone below gets covered in it too.

    It's not like that with every contractor or every wealthy customer but it's not uncommon. It's one of the less desirable things about being in the business.
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    As a contractor I say both yes and no to this. First thing you need to realize contractors come like anything or anybody, in every description one could care to "label" them as. Every construction job site is different and with very different profit margins. Some jobs have very little profit and we often take jobs at almost break even margins, just to keep our crews together and employed (a fact). Contractors due to their need to both profit and survive in a very competitive industry that works on the "low bid" concept are driven to be very cost aware always. We are a very "Network" oriented group of people. Who would like to do as many phases of every job as possible. Reality steps in, and the fact that no one contractor can do everything and at all times, we must sub out parts of every job. We will always call upon our network of professionals who have demonstrated a willingness to work with us. Most importantly be able to complete any job with a level of efficient competency and cost effectiveness that "mirrors" that contractors needs!

    Every customer is not my customer! Every contractor should not be your customer either. Find the ones that like to work with you and you with them (not easy to do). You will never be 100% happy with each other, but mutual respect is mandatory! You will find that once a contractor has accepted you into their "network", you will have a lifetime friend and associate that cares as much about you as themselves, as you will be into each job "together", very rewarding.

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    Only experience I ever had with a contractor was when I first was starting out. So it was me and my buddy in a truck basically, no business cards no logos no thing. We stopped in on a construction site asked one of the workers about hauling their metal away and the worker got my information and said he'd give it to his boss, well couple days later I got a call from his boss. He was pretty cool, he had us come in and collect all the metal scrap from the metal studs (They had them in piles mostly) while the other crews were still working and also allowed us to grab all the metal in their dumpster that they threw in the day before. all in all, me and my buddy made 70 bucks a piece with one pick up and my dads work van.

    That particular occasion aswell is when I learned that if you have someone helping you, and you are using all your equipment and vehicles, that the pay shouldn't be split in half. I ended up putting most of my money I got from that load into my tank, and I gave my dad 15 bucks for gas and coming across the river to help us out.

    Now on a side note to that, the mobile home trailer I did with my one other buddy I split directly down the middle with him because he had a truck and a trailer aswell as a plasma torch and a good bit of power tools. In cases like that I did split.
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    Well, got another call from the contractor i mentioned in the original post. I raise the price by $200 for a similar job as the last one. The last one i made peanuts so this time i charged $500 and it seemed to be the fair price but, it was after a lot of haggling. I pretty much told him that that is the price that is worth it for me to fo the job and feel free to shop around. I made sure to be polite and professional the whole time. First he wanted it for $300, then $400, then $450. He made it a tough sale. The good thing about this contactor though, they are good about paying on time .

    I also gave another quote to another contractor recently @$460 and lower the price to $440. They wanted it for $430 and i told them $440 is the lowest i can do. He never called me back. I figure if they are haggling over $10 this might be one of those that will have a hard time to pay me on time.

    Since i started doing ebay it has been easier to turn down the not so good jobs. Instead of doing an ok job i can stay home and work on ebay.

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    You think contractors are bad. For me its landlords. Granted its steady work but peanuts compared to higher end jobs. I talking iam doing things and travel distances that,18 years ago, I said I was never gonna do again. Hey but iam glad for the work. I find it less stressful if I just focus on staying busy,keep moving forward. Let money take care of its self. Iam enjoying the hustle. Just can't stand this cold!!!! 7 degree now -5cf. Going down to "1". Dam I miss the left coast!!!!

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