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    Why do you think ?

    A wile back I purchased some Bus Bar copper I must have around 30 # of it naturally I paid over spot but was at the time $7 per pound with shipping so I felt relatively it was a decent for ebay I won the bids 3 times out of the sellers 10 auctions . Finally he had no more to sell
    and I have never seen this type again .
    I feel even with copper down I could sell at the very least back @ original cost .



    Still what I wonder is , how come the copper Bullion Coins Bars . seem non reflective
    of the spot CU market . Is that a good real thing or a bubble waiting to burst

    Silver has truth it goes up and down . When the fancy copper follows the spot CU market
    is the day copper Bullion has reality. I noticed JM bullion was selling a 10 pound CU bar for $59
    and copper went down on the spot market & it is now $64 . How can that be a proper investment ?
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    Pardon my ignorance, but $7.00 per pound for copper?
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    If you want to buy copper bus bar for $7 a lb, I will sell you a couple thousand pounds of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinroch View Post
    Pardon my ignorance, but $7.00 per pound for copper?
    Thinking same thing.
    By the way I sent you an email spin

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    Ok yeah yeah
    Lets get down to the copper basics

    we have what we find free varying from
    Bear Bright
    Wire or pipe = CU #1
    Wire or pipe = CU #2
    Free find is best profit .
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    Now come the unique copper's
    Same value at yards but premium on Ebay
    Bullion Bars , copper chunks from AL heat sinks from CPU (computers)
    Coins @ 1 0z 1 oz bars
    considering a 10 pound bar sells for $70 on ebay or there abouts thats the deal

    So I found some nice Bus bars about 2 years ago ( copper was up remember)
    for future Ebay investment 's
    are they really worth $7 # nope but some body will pay
    they are some thing to behold a thick copper bar
    heavy for it's size .Will I seek out more and more NO
    but as a scrapper it's fun to have some odd ball items
    just to have & at the very least it's not lost money
    like so many other things .I'd take them fancy CU items
    any day over some crappy burger i should of just waited on .till I got home to eat
    some lower cost home cooked food.
    If I have time I'll take some pic's of my fancy coppers .

    So I was just saying as copper drops I just wonder why the bullion type seems non reflective.
    yes it's over priced but should still be reflective of commodity market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricLiquidators View Post
    If you want to buy copper bus bar for $7 a lb, I will sell you a couple thousand pounds of it.
    If you have some I will buy some But they have to be true thick heavy
    small flat rate USPS $6 will leave you profit
    as will a med USPS $15 flat rate even better
    I'll buy some but they need to be nice even the ones with a touch of silver or tin coating I like
    I'll put my money where my mouth is but no I don't want thousands of #
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    The reason why Bullion and Coin command a higher price in the marketplace is because they have added value in that it is marked directly onto the metal what exactly it is. As well, the name of the mint that did so which adds credibility.

    I deal with NTR Metals in trade sometimes, where I can take my refined precious metals and trade them straight across for minted rounds. Silver weight for Silver weight, because I can then retain not only the value of the silver, and in an easy form at that, which I can directly spend if things ever fell apart. But also it is a known minted coin by a reputable precious metal company that dealers recognize.

    Anytime you are able to exchange your precious metals, including copper, for anything known and minted, you would do well to do so.

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    Isn't the trust in minted rounds and anything else with a stamp pretty well in the tank right now, with the gold covered tungsten turning up? A piece of copper bus bar might be just as valuable as it isn't valuable enough to be worth hollowing out and counterfeiting.

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    I buy coins from JM Bullion $100 orders have free shipping & if you except the reality of commodity spot market JMB has some decent sales of under a $1 over spot .
    What they sell is real , I don't worry about fake silver.

    If any thing good came of all my scrap adventures is the fact I earn more scrap money then silver purchased - hence scrap has bought all my Sliver. It's never ceased to amaze when I'd cash out a truck load of bulk scrap and then stop by my local coin shop and walk out with = silver from the scrap yard pay out.

    Now I use JM Bullion and some times it take a nervous push from me . You know the cash looks good in my hand but I go on the web sight and make the order . I force myself .I'm to worried not to buy silver ???
    I was saving nickels for a wile but I put my faith in silver . Silver is priced well & useful in all that is needed in our world
    I don't know what the future will bring , but if I had scrapped since age 18 and scrapped with the concept of gold & silver I'd be very rich now .
    Any newbie particular 18 to 30's you have a chance to get rich just with the years you have in your favor & scrapping can do it .

    A simple formula have a job that is sufficient to pay life expenses . Then scrap and use all scrap profits towards investments
    after 30 years how could you fail, it's a lot of scrapping but can be done you wont regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sawmilleng View Post
    Isn't the trust in minted rounds and anything else with a stamp pretty well in the tank right now, with the gold covered tungsten turning up? A piece of copper bus bar might be just as valuable as it isn't valuable enough to be worth hollowing out and counterfeiting.

    Jon.
    Minted rounds will always be more desirable then unknown chunks of metal. The problem is if they are just bullion you are paying extra above spot for the minting and you will not get anything back when you go to sell over bulk metal. Purity is a big deal with gold and somewhat less with silver because of the price per oz. Copper is just not the same.

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    I'd say finding a big chunk of tungsten in your gold bar that is stamped .999 is a purity issue. Google "tungsten in gold bars".

    I was a bit tongue in cheek in my comment about copper but you said the same thing by commenting that purity isn't as much as an issue with silver as it was with gold. I just ratcheted down a notch in value where copper purity isn't as much as an issue as with silver. Pretty easy to stamp anything with .999 And any mint stamp in the world can be copied.

    All the hoity-toity mint stamps and .999 stamps means nothing. Might as well trust paper currency.

    I wouldn't trust buying any precious metal without melting it to check for junk in it and an assay on the purity. So much for pretty, shiny bars with stamps on them. Gold wire or foil would make more sense. Harder to hide shzt in it....just the purity needs to be checked then.

    This rant isn't directed at anyone...just pointing out that the high priced snooty boys flogging gold can't even keep themselves from getting burned.

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    Next time you feel like buy buss bars. look for a bar stock dealer and see if they have any cut offs This is when a customer only wants Part of the 20 foot length of stock. They sell the rest cheep. They may not always have the cut offs but they will in time.

    It will be heck of a lot cheaper than &7.00#.


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    Quote Originally Posted by etack View Post
    Next time you feel like buy buss bars. look for a abar stock dealer nd see if they have any cut offs This is when a customer only wants Part of the 20 foot length of stock. They sell the rest cheep. They may not always have the cut offs but they will in time.

    It will be heck of a lot cheaper than &7.00#.

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    buss bar stock dealer key word on INTERNET should deliver results


    Eric
    thanks for the tip
    buss bar stock dealer as key word on INTERNET should deliver results

    I'll look up

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    Another place to find offcuts of buss bar is to go to the guys who fabricate heavy electrical equipment.

    I was at a yard once when a dumpster from just a place arrived. Just about p*ssed myself when I saw all the heavy copper cutoffs!! It was covered with a shiny silvery-like coating and sure looked good!

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    Update
    I have called manufactures
    & they all keep saying they sell to scrap yards first
    But admitted to me if I was local I could purchase some remnants here and there at scrap price
    but they wont ship to me unless full price like 4 inch by 3 inch 3/4 thick $85 bucks 3 pounds BTW

    need a local place Binghamton ny ??



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