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    Scraping Irrigation Pivot Systems - Tumbleweed

    Got a call out of the blue asking if I had interest in removing an irrigation system. I told them scrap prices were so bad I could not afford to do it. They said I could have everything for free. It is an irrigation company and they said they have others they want to remove as well. This one is a 1/4 mile long, 16 ft. towers, 3/16 to 1/4 pipe and eight inches in diameter.

    This will be considered a community service/advertising project. Depending on how it goes, I might have to charge in the future. But for now it is the newest challenge and I would like some creative ideas how to proceed. I have a plan but want other ideas. Thanks.








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    Looks awfully dry...........You should come out ahead and CONGRATS!!!!

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    Tip: turn it on and let the grass get nice and soaked before torching it. Otherwise how long is it? Possibly put it on a flatbed and take it in as is depending on how far yard is. Good luck hope to c more pics

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    Yeah, having your own water truck or tank on hand in case of a grass fire probably a good idea. Should be easier than a tall watertower!! They want the electrical boxes taken as well (how does one cap of the power coming into those things?)? Should be fun!!

    Childhood dream- Sorry, probably no steam power units there. Center pivots were a post-WWII technology advance. Down in the Western High Plains (such as w. KS) they are powered with natural gas (to generate the elctricity to move them or some sort of combustion thing, I don't know...Just know that they are tied together down there...).

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    If you could put cuts in the main water line on the top of the towers you should be able to put that thing on the ground all at once. So it folds down on itself.
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    Who knows with the rust welded hardware and you are well schooled on running the torches in your area outdoors but all that brown with open flame and slag dripping would give me the DT's......if I was doing it, I would soak the flanges in the cheapest PB Blaster type lube I could find and impact the hardware at the flange connections. It'll be slower and a pain compared to burning the joints but grass fire would really scare me. Take it out in the longest sections you can handle to chop in a safer location. Maybe a big plasma torch if the impact idea busts......

    As a side note......your project posts are great. I really enjoy reading them.

    Edited to add: 8" pipe 1/4 wall (I am assuming 10-12 foot sections) in the air.......crane truck might come in handy to boom material to the ground as you section it.
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    Heres what id do.

    Id look into renting an off road forklift for a day or two. Rental places around here dont charge extra on the weekends. So id rent it on friday and try to get it all on the ground and sorted in 1 weekend. Stick the forks under the middle section, cut the middle and lower it down. Or ram it until it falls apart . Have a couple steel bins handy and load as much as you can with the fork lift.
    It depends on how fast your operator is. I use one at work all the time, and there is a HUGE difference in my speed/ production compared to a rookie.

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    Hey, its supposed to be spring!! Maybe it will rain yet (either too wet or too dry in this country)...

    P76, ParkerF4 may have a good idea there, just trying to think how far it might be to a place for you that rents such equipment, 50 miles, 100 miles???

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    Honestly...i don't think I would do it. That grass sure looks dry, its still cold and to do the job right in those conditions you would at least need to rent equipment. Couple that with steel being down I think the irrigation company is asking a bit much of you. Free...maybe if they rent your equipment for you. You are going to need a hydraulic shear if you can't burn. Even if you plan to run a torch the prep to the area so you can do so safely...again no.
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    Couldn't you pull that out into the field more thereby negating the chance of a fire?

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    I have a distant relative who has taken down over 400 of those in Colorado and he said to leave the pumphead secured for stability, start at the far end and work from above.....cutting the A-frames off; letting them fall to the ground. It would require the right equipment to do so but anything less is too dangerous. He worked with a telehandler which requires two men on the job, or maybe a good job for the wife. Sounded like he had too much time on his hands as he stuck a basketball down one of the sections, pumped propane into the bottom end and sealed it off some way or another and lit the torch. He said the ball totally disappeared over the horizon, the blast knocked him off his feet and some local neighbors asked him if he'd heard a sonic boom. I hope I got that story right.

    I could get his phone number for you if you'd like to talk to him. Safety would be a big concern for scrapping those things.

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    Thank you for your insights and I wish the time was available to address each thread separately. The major concern was starting a wild fire. Two choices seem evident, move the towers into the plowed field or tip the tower into the field. If the choice is moving the entire system, I need to disconnect the drive gears. If the goal is to tip the towers, I need to leave the drive gears attached.

    Since heights are not my strength and the fear of fires on the ground when I am in the air, the decision was simple. Updates forthcoming.

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    Couldn't you use a grinder and cut the top first so that long piece falls to the ground and then cut it up in smaller pieces? I guess I dont know much about this sort of thing. I know I've used a sawzall to cut up boiler and steam pipes, and solid wrought iron fences.

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    How many of those tractored Aframes are in there?

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    Abuilder- I'm assuming by "tractored Afarmes" you mean the wheels the move the rig. I've never walked one off but been by a lot. I would say no more than 50+ meters between them so in a quarter-mile pivot there would be about 10 give or take a couple. Let's see how wrong I'm...

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    You got it right. It would not be safe to drop more than one or two section from the outside in then. But I would still drop the thing that that way. With the water head being the support point as it is while functioning.
    Still a LOT of non ferrous to be had I see.

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    A typical center-pivot is a quarter-mile long so as it rotates it can irrigate a circle a half mile wide (so 4 of these size pivots can fill the main part of a section of township-and-range surveyed land). There are some that have a half mile arm so the circle is a mile across (but have bigger corners). I have a nice image at work that I'll post tomorrow that has both sizes in action. Actually quite artistic in the summer from space in an semi-arid region with only grass around otherwise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaRog View Post
    Abuilder- I'm assuming by "tractored Afarmes" you mean the wheels the move the rig. I've never walked one off but been by a lot. I would say no more than 50+ meters between them so in a quarter-mile pivot there would be about 10 give or take a couple. Let's see how wrong I'm...
    Most of the "pivots" as we call them in this area cover a square quarter section and have 7 towers (A-frames) with wheels. They're all electric nowdays and have done away with the old water drive. Some have the corner systems that will allow the corners to be irrigated also.....covering about 130 acrea. Otherwise they will water 110 acres.

    Fire danger is extreme right now (although it snowed today). We've already had fires burning out of control and the Fire Dept. has better things to do. I always carry a garden sprayer and believe it or not, they will put out alot of fire in certain circumstances. I always thought it would be beneficial to rig up a sprayer on my pickup; powered by a generator. Patriot, look on YouTube. There's some advice about taking down those pivots. Beware of the stress on the spans
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    Hypoman hit it on the head...a shear. Preferably on an excavator carrier. I don't think Patriot has one but he might have connections to get one.

    Lacking a shear, I would get the farmer to till up a wide strip alongside the thing and then take the big MF 4WD loader that Patriot has and dump the thing on its side onto the tilled area. (after taking anything that was worth salvaging...it looks like not much there...maybe a few tires if they aren't 100 years old and some gearboxes. I 'm guessing the electrics are 480V 3 phase so not a lot of resale value there, with the rust and all.

    His tracked skidsteer might work, too....cheaper to haul (don't need a lowbed) but puts you a little closer to the action.

    Dumping it over won't be pretty. But once the pipe is on the ground your safety concerns just got 'WAY less. And stripping the copper wire off the pipe will be a pleasure.

    Burn it up into sections and straight onto the trailer. Send that wild 4-way flanged fitting at the bottom of the center tower to someone who likes steampunk!! Actually, don't: Patriot has the artistic ability to make that into something for the house or yard that will be useful and attractive.

    Jon.
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    I guess I was off by a bit between the spans. 7 towers equals about 63 yards between each with no wheel at the pump area. Still, probably not too bad of an eye ball guess.

    YM- Interesting vid. Certainly could tell by the guy's body language he didn't want to be up close to the rig. Maybe they have them already, but if not a guy needs to fix up a cutting torch on the end of about a 15-20 foot boom (??)

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