I don't know what to do, any advice?(Wall of text warning)

I'm not sure if anyone here remembers a thread I made a while back about a super around here that I used to work for who ended up being a criminal drug addict, if not long story short is before I knew how bad he was(He's the type of person who puts up a front of being friendly, helpful, etc and then does all kinds of stuff behind people's back) I made an agreement with him that Id help him out in the buildings he works at as a super in exhange for letting me keep scrap in his basement, went well for a while and I thought he was my friend, until tools and things of mine started going missing, being broken, etc and I found out it was him and that he's actually been harrasing and stealing from people in the neighborhood for years. Eventually he started telling me that I was holding him back from making money and that I should be paying him $500 or $600 a month for keeping stuff in his basement and by that point I had had enough and I left.



Ever since then I've been having problems with this guy, scrap had been going missing, someone's throwing construction garbage in the driveway and courtyard of my building(I know 100% that this is him, when I used to deal with him he was always trying to get me to dump construction trash in other peoples buildings), and I've found out that he's been going around the neighborhood trying to ruin my reputation, telling people that I'm a thief, cocaine addict, etc he's been getting his hoodrat friends to try and intimidate me and mess with my stuff. Threatened to punch my grandma in the face, publicly mooned us, told me to my face "You're dead, I'm gonna get you just you wait and see", there's a vacant apartment in his building that he used to spy on me when I'm bringing scrap back from curb shopping on trash nights, so I've tried changing my schedules and not going out at the same times every trash night. I've confronted him many times, my grandma and cousin have confronted him, made a police report about the threats, the cops know he's a low life but he's very good at hiding while doing illegal things. The harassment never ends.

Reason I'm so angry today is because there's a Burger King that's been around forever in my neighborhood, it's being renovated and I went and talked to the guys there, and after talking to their boss said I could take everything. Loads of #1 iron, electricial systems, air ducts, chairs, etc I went back home to get my sawzall and put on some shoes and my friend was gonna go pick up the uhaul, I went back to the site and the boss then told me that they changed their mind, that I have a bad reputation around the area and I'm not in good standing with the residents, which is a load of crap because I only have problems here with the super and one other neighbor of mine who's mentally ill and doesnt like anyone. He wouldn't tell me anything about who told him this except it was "word on the street" that someone told him. My grandma was upset and I ended up going back over there with her and my cousin(My crew for all intents and purposes, they always work with me on big scrap jobs) to try and straighten this out and the guy kinda changed his story about who it was, first he claimed it was one of his bosses, then he contradicted himself and said it wasn't, etc the manager of Burger King came out, we ended up talking with her and she said that it wasn't one of the bosses who said that, it must have been someone he was talking to on the street. Turns out she knew the super too since he usually goes there for lunch when he's working on trash days, and she said she knew all about what a bum he is. My cousin and I ended up running into him later and when he saw us he went running, then I saw him again later coming out to sweep the front of his building and he ran away again. I know its him who bad mouthed me over there and made me loose the job. I have no idea about what to do to deal with this guy, nothing stops him, confronting him just makes him escalate his behavior and there's no reconciliation with him since the reason he's doing this is out of jealousy that I always find jobs and ways to make money meanwhile his job never pays him and he's too lazy to do anything else.

You guys might think I'm crazy for posting all this but I just need to vent! Has anyone here ever dealt with someone like this? How do you get rid of such an obsessive harasser? I can't think of anything else except trying to find evidence of the things he does to get him arrested.

Good luck with whatever you decide,,,
Here's your other posting.
http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/day-l...tml?highlight=

Yeah, I think all you can do is wait him out. What we might like to do will only land you in real trouble and you would wind up losing in the end. Eventually, when he realizes that he will not be able end your endeavors, he will grow weary of the game and stop. If you harass him, it will only encourage him to continue. So, in the mean time, I would look for places to collect that he does not frequent or have any influence in. When you do encounter his interference, be sure to tell the truth about who he is and what he does. Do not slander him, but speak honestly about what he has done to you personally. People will eventually come to know the truth. Until then, never give up.

Sounds awfully brash of the guy. I'm not sure where your from but where I used to live in Louisiana, makin' threats got you fed to the gators on Friday night. You kept your trap shut unless you **** sure intended to back up your words...too bad it isn't like that in the rest of the country.

I have had the same thing.

IMHO, There is only one way to stop it and that is to put the fear of god into them. Doing things legally is a waste of time. There are so many loopholes for crims and low lifes and they are masters of the game and will beat you every time.
I know on the net everyone takes the moral holier than thou highroad and says don't do anything you shouldn't, don't stoop to their level etc and that's all well and fine if you like being a victim and or don't have the guts to stand up for yourself. You are never going to win the game sticking to the rules while the other guy is cheating. That is just more laughable internet dillusion.
But you know, I'm a terrible person and I'm sure you don't think like that at all.

Now I would never suggest anything illegal,...... So maybe the best course of action would be to have a chat to him to discuss the problem and get it out in the open so you can amicably resolve your differences.
Be very polite and make sure you aren't interrupting him and wait till he is on his own in some rather quiet area so you won't be distracting him from a meeting or conversation with any of his friends and he can hear you clearly. Maybe you could take a sample of the scrap you collect, just a bit of bar or something and tell him, while this may be junk to you it's very important to me and let him see up close that this scrap is not something he is interested in getting involved with. Perhaps tell him how stressed all this is making you and you feel like you are loosing the plot and about to snap which you don't want to do and loose control of yourself. I have met some tough people in my time and the one thing they are very scared of is an unpredictable Phsyco so don't whatever you do scare him. That might un nerve him and then he would avoid you and make it difficult for you to be friends in future which i'm sure is what you really want.

Also don't do anything creepy like park your car near where he lives and be taking Pictures of the place. That is probably completely legal where you are but might make him feel uncomfortable and you wouldn't want that. Also don't hang around where he lives with a group of your friends. Again, that may make him feel uncomfortable even though you are just trying to befriend him and welcome him to your circle of friends.

If he is a super, he must work for a body corporate so you wouldn't want them to find out about what he is like as he may loose his job and that would be too bad. I don't know the law in your area but here there are a lot of things that are deemed public record, for instance if someone has been charged with a crime. You can get those records from the courthouse or over the net. Even copies of the police reports you have filed may be detrimental to his employment.
If something like that was to go to the body corporate whom he works for, they make take a dim view of that and give him the arse and of course being the easy going kind of guy you are, You certainly wouldn't want that would you?
No, of course not.

Many years ago, one of my wifes bosses started picking on her and causing her undue stress after she rejected his advances. She complained to her superiors and her complaint was dismissed and the harassment increased. I was sure it was just an unfortunate misunderstanding so I tried to discuss the matter with him. Every day I would wait for him to come out for lunch and see him but I was a much younger fitter fellow then but could never find the right words to say to him. I really wanted to discuss it with him so I would keep him in view and anticipate where he would be as he walked around and pop up in front of him. No matter how many times I went over it in my head, I just couldn't get the words out when I was in front of him. Many, many times. I would just be standing there silent like a stuffed Dummy. It was terribly embarrassing but I'm sure I didn't show it and after a few days, He seemed to be getting very uncomfortable with it.

I thought it may be better if there weren't so many people around so one day I waited in the car for him when he came home. Again I froze up and just sat there looking at him staring at me sitting there before he went in and I drove off.
He must have felt Guilty about his behaviour and regretted it because early on the Monday morning my then then GF rang me and said her boss had told him to call off her BF. She had no idea what he meant but she rang again at lunchtime and said her boss had been very nice to her that day and was from then on in.

I was glad things were resolved but felt very ashamed of myself I had never been able to get a word out, just stand there and stare at him all those times.

In the last couple of months I have been able to overcome my shyness and rung several people who had been very tardy in paying their accounts they had with my fathers business. I have been able to have very professional and cordial discussions with these people, All of who I would happily have played to the police, and they have been able to see their way clear to finding the funds to deposit into my fathers account literally within an hour. They must appreciate my professional and accommodating demeanour because friends of my father have heard word around the small town about these calls and that he has someone else coming to help him now and then. I guess it must because I am not a local but it seems some people, mainly those with a reputation in town for being less that prompt in settling their accounts have been talking and seem very wary of me.

I was most sad that one guy that I spoke to whom was very obliging in making promt payment said he would no longer be buying anything from my father. My father on the other hand being the forgiving type he is very graciously made me feel better by pretending to be very happy about that and even added some expletives of where the guy could go but it must be a long ways off because I haven't heard of such a town anywhere nearby. Given that my father is the only one in the area that has these particular items, I sure the chap won't be buying locally which is a shame.

It's always best to talk these things out with people face to face wherever possible so they understand how you feel about the situation and go over possible solutions.

Yes this is a major problem . It will not go-away , he will not stop . He has no fear &
will cause a $$ loss.

Your course of action

Ask your customers for letters of recommendations
MANY of them , get a clean bill of health from police on paper.

Type an intro letter of your services , prices ,
& explain the difficulty with - The or An - individual in your intro letter .
Inform prospective customers before the A hole gets a chance to .
I would give your flyer's out to all and as many people as you can
saturate the market fight good over evil