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EcoSafe Plan B. 06-28-2015, 07:53 PM
mudlight2 I know most of you guys do... 06-28-2015, 09:25 PM
matador I measure the economy on... 06-28-2015, 10:31 PM
dsroten My view of pricing was always... 06-29-2015, 05:55 AM
EcoSafe . Scrap prices are pretty... 06-29-2015, 07:17 AM
webuyselltradestuff This is pretty much spot on.... 06-29-2015, 10:53 AM
ResourcefulRecycling I don't study economics but... 06-29-2015, 08:06 AM
HipoGear Where is here? 06-29-2015, 09:02 AM
ResourcefulRecycling Mid Michigan 06-29-2015, 11:19 AM
Scrappah Currently ... things seem to... 06-29-2015, 12:13 PM
EcoSafe I can only add that I truly... 06-29-2015, 12:58 PM
armygreywolf I have some input here that... 06-29-2015, 02:57 PM
EcoSafe Very very good analogy ! 06-30-2015, 04:54 AM
michaelcali Exit plan..Plan B... After... 07-03-2015, 06:03 AM
HipoGear Might not be a bad idea to... 07-03-2015, 07:12 AM
DakotaRog Olddude's "brick" is actually... 06-29-2015, 03:53 PM
armygreywolf I took a few minutes to dig... 06-29-2015, 05:33 PM
Scrappah I think we could fairly say... 06-29-2015, 06:07 PM
EcoSafe Good analogy. The Primary... 06-30-2015, 05:32 AM
Scrappah If it's okay i'm going to... 06-30-2015, 01:57 PM
Patriot76 First I will agree with most... 06-30-2015, 03:02 PM
Scrappah I'm looking back much further... 06-30-2015, 05:40 PM
EcoSafe Please do not lump ss and... 06-30-2015, 05:47 PM
EcoSafe Please do not lump ss and... 06-30-2015, 06:03 PM
EcoSafe Duplicate 06-30-2015, 06:08 PM
eaglelakesalvage My plan b is to save all my... 06-29-2015, 07:57 PM
webuyselltradestuff my Plan B is simple....always... 06-29-2015, 09:02 PM
EcoSafe Road map to survival. Maybe... 06-30-2015, 04:56 AM
Patriot76 I have always been concerned... 06-30-2015, 10:18 AM
EcoSafe every one needs to take a... 06-30-2015, 11:19 AM
aph The US Social System is not... 06-30-2015, 03:25 PM
HipoGear Glad to hear some truth!... 06-30-2015, 04:21 PM
Scrappah I would suggest fact... 06-30-2015, 05:29 PM
EcoSafe No Apology necessary here. I... 06-30-2015, 06:01 PM
EcoSafe Government controlled non... 06-30-2015, 05:22 PM
Patriot76 APH - Is your concern... 06-30-2015, 04:17 PM
aph I do not have a problem with... 06-30-2015, 04:50 PM
Patriot76 Touche' 06-30-2015, 05:11 PM
Scrappah It's okay old Gent. Doesn't... 06-30-2015, 06:39 PM
EcoSafe I spent the evening... 07-01-2015, 06:50 AM
Scrappah < sigh> It's problematic.... 07-02-2015, 04:21 AM
EcoSafe No one should ever feel they... 07-02-2015, 10:52 AM
Scrappah I think if you look back... 07-02-2015, 03:55 PM
EcoSafe "One of the greatest dangers... 07-03-2015, 08:53 AM
hobo finds Money By Pink Floyd ... 07-02-2015, 04:04 PM
Scrappah Yeah .... i think about it... 07-02-2015, 04:58 PM
armygreywolf Here is my take. I should... 07-03-2015, 09:42 AM
Scrappah I don't think it's any one... 07-03-2015, 03:02 PM
armygreywolf Scrappah, I hear you about... 07-03-2015, 03:30 PM
Scrappah You know .... all you can do... 07-03-2015, 04:32 PM
IamPhil I guess to be honest... 07-05-2015, 11:09 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    I have always been concerned about the effects of our social welfare system and the difference between a hand out and hand up. JFK said it best, Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. If our society believed this, it would solve many of our economic, political, and social problems. Childhooddream hit on another ingredient for our problems. Not only is our government controlled by debt and living beyond its means, but many citizens are living in the same manner.

    My plan B is the same as my plan A, plan C, etc. I am debt free and this in itself is a great asset to ensure survival. My focus in retirement is self sufficiency. Hunting and fishing have been a big part of my entire life for recreation and now it provides additional food. This year I started my first garden, a disaster but hopefully I will get better with time. Learning something new everyday is a priority. I was never a mechanic so now after tearing things apart and admitting defeat, I hire a mechanic. The difference for me is helping the mechanic with the repairs. This way I learn tricks of the trade that might help with the next breakdown. I am sure this strategy has saved me hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.

    My business plan is pretty simple: scrapping and farm restoration. For the farm restoration side of the business I look for things that others do not have the time, equipment, or desire to do on their own. Showing a customer how much money they can make in the long run by paying me is a huge part of my strategy.

    Now for the safety valve of my lifestyle, something I have not talked about or seen on the forum. I do a lot of bartering and yes I pay taxes on it. After all I have a responsibility to help pay for social welfare, Obamacare, multiple cell phones for those on welfare, etc. It is assumed many on this forum participate in this type of economics but do not want to admit it publically so I will. Labor is traded for the use of equipment, hunting rights, or garden vegetables. Firewood is traded for used oil, loaning my trailer to have someone spray weeds, and cleaning out sheds for scrap. I sell farm machinery for farmers in return for references, donate antique equipment for the PR, and trade metal art for horse tack. This morning I helped a neighbor with computer issues and helped them advertise several items on Craigs List in return for the use of their pontoon boat. My college wrestling buddies are planning a walleye fishing/beer drinking tournament latter this summer and we needed a stable boat for the occasion. (Clarification, I am far from an expert on computers but to a 75 year old farmer I am a guru.)



    So bartering seems to be my safety net and one that will serve well during bad economic times. It is amazing the types of deals that one can make and how beneficial they are to all parties. My guess is that if the economy goes to pot, this will be the most valuable plan B.
    every one needs to take a serious look at this post! A LESSON IN IMPROVING YOUR POSITION IN TODAY'S WORLD.

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