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EcoSafe Plan B. 06-28-2015, 07:53 PM
mudlight2 I know most of you guys do... 06-28-2015, 09:25 PM
matador I measure the economy on... 06-28-2015, 10:31 PM
dsroten My view of pricing was always... 06-29-2015, 05:55 AM
EcoSafe . Scrap prices are pretty... 06-29-2015, 07:17 AM
webuyselltradestuff This is pretty much spot on.... 06-29-2015, 10:53 AM
ResourcefulRecycling I don't study economics but... 06-29-2015, 08:06 AM
HipoGear Where is here? 06-29-2015, 09:02 AM
ResourcefulRecycling Mid Michigan 06-29-2015, 11:19 AM
Scrappah Currently ... things seem to... 06-29-2015, 12:13 PM
EcoSafe I can only add that I truly... 06-29-2015, 12:58 PM
armygreywolf I have some input here that... 06-29-2015, 02:57 PM
EcoSafe Very very good analogy ! 06-30-2015, 04:54 AM
michaelcali Exit plan..Plan B... After... 07-03-2015, 06:03 AM
HipoGear Might not be a bad idea to... 07-03-2015, 07:12 AM
DakotaRog Olddude's "brick" is actually... 06-29-2015, 03:53 PM
armygreywolf I took a few minutes to dig... 06-29-2015, 05:33 PM
Scrappah I think we could fairly say... 06-29-2015, 06:07 PM
EcoSafe Good analogy. The Primary... 06-30-2015, 05:32 AM
Scrappah If it's okay i'm going to... 06-30-2015, 01:57 PM
Patriot76 First I will agree with most... 06-30-2015, 03:02 PM
Scrappah I'm looking back much further... 06-30-2015, 05:40 PM
EcoSafe Please do not lump ss and... 06-30-2015, 05:47 PM
EcoSafe Please do not lump ss and... 06-30-2015, 06:03 PM
EcoSafe Duplicate 06-30-2015, 06:08 PM
eaglelakesalvage My plan b is to save all my... 06-29-2015, 07:57 PM
webuyselltradestuff my Plan B is simple....always... 06-29-2015, 09:02 PM
EcoSafe Road map to survival. Maybe... 06-30-2015, 04:56 AM
Patriot76 I have always been concerned... 06-30-2015, 10:18 AM
EcoSafe every one needs to take a... 06-30-2015, 11:19 AM
aph The US Social System is not... 06-30-2015, 03:25 PM
HipoGear Glad to hear some truth!... 06-30-2015, 04:21 PM
Scrappah I would suggest fact... 06-30-2015, 05:29 PM
EcoSafe No Apology necessary here. I... 06-30-2015, 06:01 PM
EcoSafe Government controlled non... 06-30-2015, 05:22 PM
Patriot76 APH - Is your concern... 06-30-2015, 04:17 PM
aph I do not have a problem with... 06-30-2015, 04:50 PM
Patriot76 Touche' 06-30-2015, 05:11 PM
Scrappah It's okay old Gent. Doesn't... 06-30-2015, 06:39 PM
EcoSafe I spent the evening... 07-01-2015, 06:50 AM
Scrappah < sigh> It's problematic.... 07-02-2015, 04:21 AM
EcoSafe No one should ever feel they... 07-02-2015, 10:52 AM
Scrappah I think if you look back... 07-02-2015, 03:55 PM
EcoSafe "One of the greatest dangers... 07-03-2015, 08:53 AM
hobo finds Money By Pink Floyd ... 07-02-2015, 04:04 PM
Scrappah Yeah .... i think about it... 07-02-2015, 04:58 PM
armygreywolf Here is my take. I should... 07-03-2015, 09:42 AM
Scrappah I don't think it's any one... 07-03-2015, 03:02 PM
armygreywolf Scrappah, I hear you about... 07-03-2015, 03:30 PM
Scrappah You know .... all you can do... 07-03-2015, 04:32 PM
IamPhil I guess to be honest... 07-05-2015, 11:09 PM
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    I spent the evening researching SS and first found something very interesting. Many of the "official" government sites came up blank. The sites by others are so convoluted and busy calling each other liers you get nothing,

    Here is what I was able to dig out.. I was able to read the jist of the original bill written and passed in the mid 30s. It is written so loosely that the government can do any thing with the money and get away with it even though laws have been passed in later years making it absolutely illegal to use those funds for any thing other then SS. The use of IOUs to "borrow" the funds actually and legally does not admit borrowing or taking (stealing) and is why they are used. the government fully admits the IOUs are worthless. The ss was set up at 1% of the first $1400 of your wages but, as they realized how easy it was to bleed new taxes under the right
    Deception. that 1% was raised 4 times before Roosevelt left office. (imagine that).

    In the middle 60s Lyndon Jonson merged the SS tax into the general fund. In the mid 80s a huge rise in ss tax was passed under the guise of supporting the baby boomers retirement, this raised 2.5 Trillion dollars. Some ting politicians refer to as a wind fall. (most of us real folks call it a savings account) and of course since it went to the general fund it was spent. we had, after all, wars to fight and, freebees to pay for to those "disadvantaged" folk.



    When you hear about all the money SS going to baby boomers here is a fact to consider, of all the funds payed into the non existing ss fund, because of the mid 80s mega increase in FICA tax Boomers paid 4/5ths of the total amount paid from it's inception up to today.
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