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    I had to drive 600 miles round trip to pick up 2 of my kids on LI NY
    I had an issue with Mini Van so I used my work truck Doge 1500 318. ( rusty one )
    The MPG surprised me . I was expecting to get rolled under the coals & did not even bother to keep track of miles
    I figure I'll just keep pumping in the fuel . after 125 miles I noticed the Dodge was doing fine . After I got there I put some fuel in and realize and could see it cost no more if not less then my mini van.

    Nothing like a true HWY run to understand MPG with a V8 and the mild to decent aerodynamics of the Dodge 1500
    I did empty the truck for the trip and had the back door off cab . Of course in true scrapper mode I came back
    with 300 pounds of short . 5 pounds Brass . 2 motors and a power cord from vac
    also found 240 pounds (4 bags) potting top soil & one living evergreen tree in a pot (5 foot tall ) amongst a bunch of dead ones . I figure from a Gardner

    I love that Dodge, the confused looks from people in LI NY of trusty rusty paled to my utter smug altitude of this truck that does it all for me when the chips are down .
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    Depending on configuration, V8s aren't bad. I own a 1987 Chevrolet with a 305- I can usually get 22MPG out of her. That's not too bad.Sadly, my Ford 300 I6 costs more to run than the Chevy V8, and isn't much cheaper than our 1 Ton with the 350.

    I think the V8s do better, since they don't have to work as hard as a 6 cylinder would.
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    Gotta love a V8 !

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    Quote Originally Posted by matador View Post
    Depending on configuration, V8s aren't bad. I own a 1987 Chevrolet with a 305- I can usually get 22MPG out of her. That's not too bad.Sadly, my Ford 300 I6 costs more to run than the Chevy V8, and isn't much cheaper than our 1 Ton with the 350.



    I think the V8s do better, since they don't have to work as hard as a 6 cylinder would.
    The Ford 300-6 was originally designed as a hi-torque work motor not as a gas saver an equal ford motor would not be the 302 but the 352 and 350 cevy. the dodge 318 on the other han was designed as both a truck work and a high out put racing motor just different tuning just some interesting inf.
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    Funny the 300 6s that I've dewlt with all got 18 mpg+ granted they were newer trucks with over drive Trans.
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    With V8's the trick is let them float at the meat of there toque rpm's . naturally heavy foot them
    and your toast .
    I had some 250 Chevy six's and found just ok on fuel & still ok heavy on the peddle but not much performance Chevy 250 was slow if geared tall , I did have a 66 Chevy van once with the 250 and 4.11 's that had Zip off the line .
    Always wanted a ford 300 just to see
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    I was awfully fond of the Ford 300cid / six. It was a real low end workhorse. If you think about it, the Ford 302 v-8 has only two more cubic inches of displacement than the six. The diameter of the piston in the six was massive.

    I do 98% local driving and it doesn't seem to make a difference whether it's the 300,302, or the 351. They all seem to average 11 mpg in the winter. Summertime .... maybe 15 mpg ?

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    My 1995 F150 is just a gutless pig, it seems. I can't seem to get above 14 MPG on the highway, and it has the M5OD. I think it was in an accident early in it's life, though. Maybe something is a little out of whack?

    Those 4 barrels aren't too bad for economy. If I keep my foot out of the one on my Dodge's 360, I can get decent mileage for a 30 year old 3/4 ton truck. Open up the secondaries, and man, that thing will pull.

    The older, carb'd 300s were better for torque. The EFI ones were more for highway use, so they used a different camshaft in them that led to less torque.


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    Even in late model i.e. 2003 to newer trucks this holds true to a sense. Every truck manufacturer produces 2 v8 motors. Dodge its the 4.7 , 5.7. Chevy 4.8 , 5.3. Ford 4.6 , 5.4. I see this all the time in my shop. Ur smaller block v8 people think oh i got a v8 but its the small one should b good on gas. Notttt. Opposite depending on what u use it for. Hwy us or towong use ur getting slapped in the face. It takes those motors so much more rpms torque and guts to get that vehicle going 70 mph. Or to tow something. Your actually working backwards. Dodge 4.7 i will add is by far the worst when it comes to power and mpg

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    I don't know much about the newer engines, but we've pulled heavy trailers for hundreds of thousands of miles (All on gasoline engines). The larger one not only is more fuel efficient, but they generally seem to last longer.

    Makes sense to me!

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    Exactly. The larger v8 gasoline motors are built exactly for that. Their built to last. Their built for loads. Their built to get that big body up and down the road with ease. Now ur v6 is gonna be good on gas if ur drivong round town finding money at garage sales. But once u decide to haul it up and down the highway hauling all those benjamins to the yard on a trailor, say goodbye to the washingtons

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    Just had a customer trade in a 2000 model f150. 4.2L v6. Manual tranny. Got into a chevy 2500hd 6.0l gas. Hwy use no haul, diff in gas 1.6 mpg. Hooked to his trailer hauling maybe 1500 lbs. Diff in gas. 2.5 mpg. Facto numero uno. He couldnt hault that trailor with ford 4.2

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    We have a 1995 F150 reg. cab/short bed with the 300, and a 2000 K3500 Chevrolet crew cab long bed. The Chevrolet is within 2MPG of the Ford. Yet, it has two feet more bed, extra cab, extra heavy springs, shocks, tires, axles,....

    If that 350 is anything like the Ford 351 we had for 364k miles of hard pulling duty, it'll last a while.

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    In farming, we have a saying. You can use a large tractor for a small job, but you can't use a small tractor for a large job. The fuel money that you may save will likely be negated. If not, once maintenance is factored in, lets just say that I'm through with 6 cylinder pickups (Not counting diesels, or Ecoboosts, or other new-fangled engines with magical wizardry that didn't exist in the 1990s)


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