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    Honesty is the best policy/The lawnmower.

    Honesty is the best policy/The lawnmower.

    Strange title huh?

    I have a pretty good scrap gig going. Yeah, it sucks that commodities are down across the board, but it is what it is. I'm still making it work.

    I was basically handed my scrap accounts on a silver platter. I had just quit my real job as a video editor at the top rated (at the time) TV station in Bismarck, ND. I was chasing the dream of being self employed (sometimes I wonder if that was the right move).

    So I was going to be a freelance video guy. In the meantime my dad died. He owned a tractor salvage/scrap yard/fur buying operation.

    Well, us kids had 400 tractors in various states of disrepair to scrap. When I say tractor I'm counting just a rear end and a seat as a tractor. Some more, some less. This all went down in 2007 when prices were good.

    These events got me into scrapping as the dollars were very good and I was having lots of fun. I had grown up at the tractor salvage/scrap yard/fur buying operation, but absolutely hated it because my dad was such an a$$hole. So I went to college and got into TV.

    Anyway, while we were cleaning up all the tractors my brother Stan passed away. He was a scrapper, and had landed the accounts that I have today. Like I said I was handed my accounts on a silver platter. In the right place at the right time I guess. Since then I have picked up a few, and lost a few. Had Stan died a year earlier, I would have never got into scrapping as I was still working full time at the TV station.

    So what does this have to do with honesty or a lawn mower?

    Well, when I showed up as the newbie scrapper at one of Stan's accounts, there was almost a sense of "we don't know you, and we don't trust you."

    In fact, one of the higher up's said "if you do "X" you will lose this account". Basically he was warning about a payola type situation.

    Time went on, and one day I was loading scrap. There was a heavy I-beam with some other stuff attached to it. They throw their scrap in a 7'X 7' or so bin. I lifted this big monstrosity up, and set it on the edge of the bin. I was trying to syke (SP?) myself up to muster enough strength to throw it over the side of my trailer. Well, I pulled some other stuff out of the bin, and lo and behold I knocked big I-beam off the bin, and onto my client's riding lawnmower. I cracked the rear fender and broke the cruise control knob (or so I thought) off of it. This was a John Deere lawn mower, and if you have ever bought parts for a green anything, you know they don't come cheap.

    So there was a little guy sitting on one shoulder saying: "don't say anything, they'll think somebody else dropped something on it" and there was another little guy sitting on my other shoulder saying "you should tell them you broke their lawnmower".

    I mulled it over for a few minutes, and believe me I wanted to just let it slide, but my conscience wouldn't let me.

    So I called one of the higher up's over, and explained what happened and told him I would pay for the damage. Send me the bill, yada, yada, yada. Meanwhile I'm thinking to myself this scrap load is going to cost me a lot of money.

    So this higher up calls the shop mechanic over. He looks at it and says "the cruise control knob was already broken, and I can just throw a little JB Weld on the fender and patch it all up".

    Whew, the mechanic saved me a lot of money right there. But something more valuable happened that day. I went from: "we don't know you, and we don't trust you" to "this guy is alright".

    Maybe it's all in my head, but that lawn mower day seemed to change things. This client has come to trust me to the point of offering me the key codes to get into their buildings when they are not there, leaving me alone when they leave, etc. "Just lock up when you are done."

    So I would even go so far as to say it's a friendly relationship. They have invited me to their Christmas party (I've never gone) and I have invited them to come Pheasant hunt some of our land (they've never taken me up on my invite).

    I was loading scrap today, and that lawn mower thing just popped into my head. Thought I would post the experience here on SMF.

    If you have a "Honesty is the best policy" story, I'd love to hear about it. I'm sure other members would too. Who knows, maybe it will influence a lurker or member to do the right thing.

    Sorry this post got so long-winded. I thought the background was important. LOL.
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    I had something similar happen to me in my teenage years.

    I had started working summers for a man in construction and it was my second week in at the ripe old age of 14. I made a really stupid mistake. We had framed out an existing pole barn and put siding on it only to figure out that we had to put in a few more 2X4's so that the plywood wall on the inside of this stable would be to the boss' liking. He was a very particular man so far as those things go, so i thought. Anywho. I'm nailing in these 2x4's and not thinking about whats behind it, I managed to shoot one straight through the siding.

    So I looked at the man cutting boards, and I said "Mike, I just shot a nail through the siding." He told me not to tell the boss and maybe he wouldn't notice. So I sat on that for five minutes knowing what I should do. So I went over to the boss and said "Jeff, I did something really stupid. I shot a nail through the siding." He said "That's alright, you can redo it. We have enough material." So I hung the siding with Jeff helping me and we got to be pretty good friends that day. So far as a 14 year old and a 43 year old man go.

    Two years later, I'm in a play at the high school. (Yeah, Yeah, think what you like. I was good at it. Won a few awards in the state for it.) So it got time to meeting the family and her Mother's Boyfriend at the time was none other than my boss, Jeff.

    Eventually her mother and Jeff got married, and Me and her got married. I'm a co-owner st the aforementioned construction company and to this day I and everyone else at the company hear about how I put a nail through the siding from the backside in a pole barn. Strictly as a precautionary tale of course /Sarcasm. Everyone and their brother laughs about it.

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    Honesty is the best policy/Lumber
    Overbought material for a project. now this was for a multi millionaire who always paid the bill no questions asked, one of our long term customers in my other business. The material was true 4"x6"x12' Douglas fir along with some 2''x12'' and a few other smaller sized boards to build a very nice set of stairs and a large arbor, miscalculated the amount needed and halfway through the project with most of the wood stained realized..we got waaayyy too much lumber here..
    same deal, guy on one side said he'll never know he's rich, just take it home..guy on the other said let him know as he works for his money just like you .as we wrapped up I did the math and $980 worth of lumber was a tough pill to swallow for our small company... but let the man know what happened and told him I would be removing that amount from his bill. He was very happy to hear how honest we were and said many other contractors have tried to screw him over in the past. We were the first to ever admit we were at wrong before hand without "legal persuasion". Few years later we no longer work with that developer in that area and they have new contractors (Moral issue) BUT we still have that customer and he gives us several big projects a year and will not let the other company's do ANY work on his property. value way above that $980 worth of lumber.
    Gotta do what's right... even if it costs you short term, In the long term it always pays off..Always
    There ain't nothing wrong with an honest days work. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.- Old Man

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    The integrity of the upright guides them, but the crookedness of the treacherous destroys them. Proverbs 11:3

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    Thank you for those stories.
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    Rented a truck. My hey asked if I needed moving blankets or a dolly. Said no thanks, I have my own. Okay, we won't put any in the truck then.

    I never looked inside the truck til we got to my storage unit. Looked inside and what do I find but twenty moving blankets!

    I took them out so as not to stain them as we were doing a messy job. When we finished I had one of my guys clean and return the truck.

    What do I find in my storage this morning but twenty moving blankets! I sure could use them, but dammit! Off I go to return them...
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    I was getting into scrapmetal again after doing some clearing around my house, I really needed the money, no car, $35 a week for food etc.
    I needed to get rid of some roofing iron. Someone told me that"Theres a yard where you can dump off scrap steel close by you"

    So I go and check it out and figure they are selling everything thats dropped off as 'lightguage iron''.
    I drop off some iron sheeting anmd notice some Brass and Copper in the mud.
    The place was a mess, people were just dumping stuff right of their trailer and the next person was dumping their stuff closer to the footpath, thren across the footpath, then out onto the road.

    So I start picking up the stuff thats on the property and picking out the nonferrous Brass and Copper bits, then chucking the lightgauge iron onto the middle of the drop off yard.
    Then piling it up, stacking it, so it took up less space and could be picked up in one grab with the crane they would use. I was winding fencing wire around the roofing sheets so they would stay together. Using washing machine cases to hold smaller stuff.

    Then this older guy (older than me) drives up, asks me "what I'm doing?"
    I answer that "I dropped off this sheeting, but theres stuff on the footpath and I don't want to put it there. I figured I could shift this stuff, then that it was easyer to just pile that stuff there, then wrap it in fencing waire so it stays together.
    Then while i was doing that I found some small Copper pipe and a few bits of Brass. Thats worth moneybut its being chuicked in with the iron so noones getting anything rom it.
    So I put that aside and piled more stuff and then finaly got my sheet iron out and over into this pile, thats on the property, not the footpath. Looks a loot better too"

    "AH" he says. "So do you know the owner of the property?"
    "Nah" I answer "But I'd like too, I need some cash and Im fixing my roof and if I did I could ask him if that if I clean up stuff here, remove any nonferrous and keep the place cleaner, while dumping off more metal than I takeaway, would I be able to get the nonferrous and maybe put stuff over the fence so he can get the peices he wants so no one else steals it". "Do you know the owner?" I ask.

    "Yeah" he answers "Its me".
    "Ah" I say,theres no point in me repeating myself. I have already given him the info I wanted to anyway. So I grin sheepishly.

    He says "I like that idea, sure, go for it".

    That was 4 to 5 years ago. I still pile metal up for him, disuade theft, clean up the footpath, drop off 100% sheet iron so as to up the % of actual metal. Dump the 'heavy metal insize' over his fence so nobody takes it.
    Hes driven past in the rain and I have been sweeping the glass crumbs up off the footpth and street. We wave. Nice deal.

    Being upfront, friendly, honest, really paid off that day.

    I have done similar when I got caught head down over the side of a waste bin once. For that the guy gave me permission and 7 computers... from inside his business, scrap- but too good to dump. and a smile.

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    This is a great thread that addresses ethics and psychology. It seems that society as a whole has become use to being ripped off, shorted, scammed, screwed, etc, in everyday transactions.



    When anyone steps up and admits their mistake/failure, they are looked upon with great respect, because it is no longer the norm. Individuals and businesses appreciate the truth, even when it is mostly negative. Put into daily business it becomes a huge positive multiplier.

    If you can provide what you say you can provide, or more, you have their attention. If you can complete what you say you can complete on time, or before, they will be back for more. If you admit your mistakes/miscalculations before they inquire about them, you can make long term business partners.

    I tell customers/business partners up front, I want to make some money out of our transactions for a long time, not rip them off for a short term gain. As a result I get different responses, but generally I continue to add to my long term client list. That is good business, when both sided benefit, not one side taking advantage of the the other. Long term is where success is hiding. Long term doesn't happen with half truths, manipulation, misrepresentation, lies, tardiness, misdirection, below average effort, or minimal results. Do better than others and when it doesn't happen that way, say so. A short term negative should not impede long term success, if the truth is included in the equation.


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