Bullion- Hope to hear from you if there is a price recovery in steel. In the meantime enjoy your trucking gig!! Sounds like that's your main action anyway.
Bullion- Hope to hear from you if there is a price recovery in steel. In the meantime enjoy your trucking gig!! Sounds like that's your main action anyway.
1 cent per pound here - -- Im done scrapping --- Even when prices go back up I dont want to ever scrap like used to again unless its just side money -----
3 cent a lb here. I'll never stop scrapping. It's a by product of almost every business I'm in. Heck, I've been keeping all of my non-ferrous metals to turn in when they go back up just because it's not income that I need and it's an investment.
Not adapting or making changes to your scrap metal efforts with the "down turn" in prices we have all experienced in the last year or more, that would be just INSANITY! We each do what we think is best for our own individual situations. Getting out of the scrap "game" is a personal decision, I'm sure you will continue to apply some of what you have experienced and learned in the scrap business to your new endeavors. I wish you all the best and good luck to you.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.Albert Einstein
I feel like the odd one out - steel here's 0.30/lb and i'm guaranteed at least 0.09/lb i bring in. Then again, Weitsmann's still buying yards up here that are failing like it's butter and their churning profits to allow for higher prices. I'll probably call down there again tomorrow to see what their clean alum is(yesterday they told me clean alum's going for 0.40/lb and that the rate changes on an almost daily basis now).
Surely steel isn't .30/lb? I need to move to New York if it is.
Don't bother. They moved his Cheese and he's not about to go find more. He will wait for the price of Cheese to go back up... and wait... and wait...
I've attempted several "self employment endeavors" in my life, mainly because I just dont like working for others. My father raised nine kids and ran his own buisness his entire life. Im new to the forum, but not to the buisness world. All I want to say is this. For those of us with the entrepeneur spirit, making the decision to shut down a buisness can be very hard. Ive done it a few times and later regretted it. To me its not a matter of assesing the situation and making a financial decision (although thats a part of it for sure)
as much as assesing my own level of determination and willingness to fight on and push through the hard times. (wich by the way, ALL buisnesses experiance at some point). Is there ANY way I can cut expenses without sacrificing customers? Is there any way I might bring in a bit more capital? Could I afford some advertising, and would it help? Perhaps join with another buisness owner some where close by and find a way to help each other? Is there ANY THING I can do, mabye not to keep on at the same level of income, but at least at enough to keep the buisness open untill the market rebounds? Because if or when it does, its the ones that are already set up and established with a decent client base that will reap big reward. Starting over is a *****. All that said, Im certainly no expert. Mabye I just felt like rambling. Too much coffee perhaps. But what ever you decide, Know that some folks do understand your frustration and wish you the best.
Yes go after non-ferrous and E-Scrap at this time it brings a great margin.
Well, the scrap yard is gonna pull both my bins in 2 weeks-they can't afford the trucking although they charge me 30 bucks per ton for trucking.
So whether I like it or not, I am done with scrap in 2 weeks.
Most of my trucking customers are gone as well.
Hello, burger flipping job-can't wait! NOT!
Before you do that, try to get into the clean out business or something similar. A pickup and a dump trailer (or a utility trailer) will take you a long way.
Is pay to haul not a model in your area? I fully realize that in farming communities that's not a possible model (I live in a farming state).
I do have some ideas for you bullion. One of which is heavy melt contracts. Might be worth having a word with the rail companies, manufacturers in your broader area...etc. In addition consider that not all scrap you haul is actually scrap. For instance any bar or round stock with a length of 3 or more feet is probably valuable enough to hang onto until you can sell a larger quantity to a welding/machine shop for 10 times scrap price. I know demolition is always a good header for a business when scrap is down. There are ways to get paid for what your already doing and doing it without gouging a customer in the process.
I'll admit shred is way way down but according to yards in our area, heavy melt, short iron (prepared) is still pretty good. If iron isn't in your cards, like has already been said...nothing wrong with getting into non-ferrous or even e waste. What seems like slim pickings in general right now changes just as soon as you change the shingle on your sign that your accepting that kind of stuff.
lastly, there's one thing I believe in, that's survival. If you can figure out a business model for lean times you will snuff out everyone around you and pretty soon be the ONLY game in town, commanding your own prices and jobs.
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AGW- I always enjoy hearing your perspectives on things. You must be boo coo busy as you haven't posted much lately. Is WI's mrat season opening up soon? Are you going to make some sets??
Don't mean to jack your thread bullion, I know you're going through some tough times. If there are ways to figure out new ventures and avenues of revenue, there are folks on here that can suggest some interesting ways. Good luck and stay warm this winter!!
I can't even DESCRIBE how busy we are these days. I wasn't able to get out for bow hunting this year, I've had my bowtech 82nd airborne for 7 years and it finally needs to be restrung, I no longer trust it.
Well, the last roll off bin has left my yard.
Cleaning up my spot at the storage facility and then moving on.
Going to stock pile in my back yard for a couple of months.
Looking for a full time job to pay my bills as my trucking company is officially dead.
Still picking up non ferrous as well as appliances, furnaces and water heaters.
Found a used appliance shop that pays 10-20 per used appliance.
Going to be a pretty lean Christmas this year.
bullion- I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers this Christmas season that something opens up for you. If it didn't take so much cash and have to deal with 2 sets of customs officials, I'd send you a box of frozen pheasant meat. Any dish you can use chicken for, pheasant can be substituted instead. Jerky might be easier to mail but still don't if that would make it through customs. I'll check it out...
Non ferrous is the way to go. I've always delt with it. Only a few times have I hauled in just shred. I imagine it would be difficult to run an operation. Focused mainly on a commodity that was only as much as $.10/ pound in its hayday. I know not everybody can recycle a/Cs but the majority of weight in an a/c was worth $1/pound when it wasn't so bad a few months ago, and is now still $.80/pound. Then other components are a buck fifty or buck thirty or forty cents. I can't imagine going after a trailer of something only worth ten cents a pound. If it's that low to begin with there isn't much of a comfort margin. If non ferrous don't work. You could learn to fix those appliances and sell them for hundreds a piece, and do that on the side of your burger Flippin job.
scrapdaddyj- I thought the majority of the weight in an a/c was the compressor and the light steel outer case?? But I do agree that for just scrap in appliances, a/cs probably have the best return. I have some small Cu/Al rads to take in next week, I wonder how much they've dropped from 78 cents a pound a few weeks back do to the more recent drop again in Cu.
Fixing up those appliances might be an option for bullion but not all geographic areas have higher end resale potential for such things. Rural areas and economically depressed areas people aren't going to pay "hundreds" for a fixed washer, dryer, or refrig. If you can get that in your area, great, consider your self blessed. I live in a Midwestern metro of 200K that probably has the opposite issue, people have cash to go blow on a new piece if theirs takes a hiccup/dive and they want near nothing to get it out of the house. I know Silverock...has expressed his frustration on the forum about trying to re-sell fixed up dryers and such for $150 for nearly new ones that had 1 major issue that he fixed when people are willing to get rid of working decent dryers on CL for $75-50. Then most people expect that's what a used dryer should go for...
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