I have questions about that business

WOW....Giako, I can assure you that is not the sentiments of the VAST majority of people on this board (the above comments).

Anyways, based on current prices, I am not sure you can make alot doing what you are describing. Steel especially is at EXTREMELY low prices. We also have no idea where you are going to be (ie what market). I just do not think that the profits can outweigh the expenses if just a short term operation. Also metal is a much lower margin commodity...ewaste is a better option. Again, don't know where you will be, how long or what is a "good" profit in your eyes.

Again, sorry for the ignorant comments above....SMH

Welcome from Wyoming! I see no problem with a person from Turkey- we're all humans, and until proven guilty, I'll assume nothing.

That said, how much are you looking to spend on vans? There is a huge difference in what you'd need to make to cover the cost of a $25,000, as opposed to an older $5,000 van.

Personally, I'd purchase pickup trucks. You can build racks higher than the top of the cab level (Unless you were talking about box vans- those are different), pickup trucks can be had with 4x4, and should be easier to resell. There are definite advantages to vans, though. Trucks are just my preference.....

Welcome to the forum! We're all glad to have you (Well, most of us....)

Originally Posted by matador

Welcome from Wyoming! I see no problem with a person from Turkey- we're all humans, and until proven guilty, I'll assume nothing.

That said, how much are you looking to spend on vans? There is a huge difference in what you'd need to make to cover the cost of a $25,000, as opposed to an older $5,000 van.

Personally, I'd purchase pickup trucks. You can build racks higher than the top of the cab level (Unless you were talking about box vans- those are different), pickup trucks can be had with 4x4, and should be easier to resell. There are definite advantages to vans, though. Trucks are just my preference.....

Welcome to the forum! We're all glad to have you (Well, most of us....)

First of all Hello
now in same circumstances i can pay 30.000$ for 2 pickups what do you suggest about vehicles or other parts of business.I have not enough knowledge about that business .ı am planning to route in(for example) illinois towns with 2 pickups and take all kind of scraps (or Specialization) ,And than i will sell it to scrap yard(or is there any better option?).That is the basic plan does it work?ıf i can sustain that 1 year approximetly I can invest more money for opening my own scrap yard

if you are thinking about opening a scrap yard, you need to educate yourself EXTENSIVELY, here and elsewhere. Scrap Yards in the US are WAY WAY more complex than most places. They are EXPENSIVE to run and stay in compliance. You also can't just put one ANYWHERE, zoning for something like this is pretty strict in most places.

Spend the next 6 months learning the business, research the scrap yard (now is not the time I would think to jump in...yards are closing all over the place). I would say box trucks are a better option with a lift gate. They are cheap and can carry alot of material. Plus you can do pickups of different computers etc for ewaste.

Make sure you crawl before you walk/run...and LEARN before spending a bunch of money. It will help keep you out of the poorhouse.

My first tip, especially for a fledgling business is to buy cheaper trucks. A used 24' box truck can be had for $15,000, and a good Chevrolet or Ford pickup for under $10,000. That said, farming communities don't do the best. You'll have to pay pretty well- stuff that's sat for 30 years will just sit for another 30 otherwise.



Also, Illinois is very heavy on regulation. We used to live there. It's one of the least business-friendly states that I can think of. Prepare for red tape galore!

To make really decent money you will need connections to deliver Tons of metals - I don't think this will work don't fool your self about coming here to find scrap off the streets .
If you could paint you could develop a crew and make decent money . start with one van a few men
who knows it could grow .Painting contractors do well , but remember there are legalities to deal with also

Giako: I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL WELCOME FROM FLORIDA.
connections in Turkey can be a great advantage here,

learn all you can here on the forum.

TO me it is very refreshing to hear from an migrant who is planning to bring an asset to America rather then just take all the free goodies.

my sincerest best wishes
michael c. wier
owner, EcoSafe asset recovery systems.

There have been some posts removed, so this may read kind of weird.

Make sure to know about the area you're working in. Illinois laws will be different than Kentucky or Arizona, for example. You'll need to know what laws are applicable to where you're looking to scrap.

Keep equipment costs as low as you can. If shred is paying $40/Ton, that's $0.02 per pound. For every extra $1 that you spend on a truck, that's 50# of steel that you have to give away to recover that lost $1. Spending an extra $5,000 on a truck will mean that you've just lost 125 tons of scrap. You've essentially given it away- to the truck dealership.

Keep your costs low, and know what you can and can't, and should and shouldn't do, and you'll improve your odds a lot.