Copper Head
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To day I stumbled on a dumpster full of AL
and a few bags tied shut with red tape
Around dumpster red warning tape
Asbestos Warning - enter only by authorized personnel
I used my spider senses & after 5 min what the tape said kicked in and I hit the road .
What I did for 5 Min's is anybody's guess
Any way since when do they even have an Asbestos trash roll off
in the open air . ?
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Copper Head and CopperHeadAKA (same person)
I am back to my skill set from the 80's Painting & all that follows it
I removed myself from the trash company I worked for as of 2 years ago
I find scrap non the less
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Alligators in the sewers.... or maybe a pervert or deformed kid.
Experienced scrapper
I don't know everything about asbestoes, but it' s big money and big problems, and yet can be disposed of in a landfill.Originally Posted by CopperHeadAKA
Biggest potential for danger is breathing in a minute particle. It lodges in your lung, and a "cist" forms around it. Your body can ' t get rid of it, and 30 years later you have a problem. Kind of like what a sliver is, what you can't get out. Mesothelioma I believe it 's called. SOL.
Read up on statistics. Chances are slim that you may get this. It does happen. 30 year gestation period.
I've been exposed to asbestoes, unfortunately, many times. So far, so good.
Commen sense required. Ther's more to it, but , don't breathe it. Don't bring dust home, either. The dust particles, unless contained, could be lethal to anybody..........30 years down the road.
Read up on it. Asbestoes is a wonderful and useful item, yet toxic product.
Best to avoid unless handled safely.
Proper disposal is to securely close bags. If the bags were as such, you probably should feel at ease.
However, this should not be taken as any sort of guarantee,I don't know the details. Don't get crazy, learn, and move on. You could get hit by a truck tomorrow, and ..........
Last edited by btkr; 07-30-2017 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Additional
Copper Head
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Well I"d say the Asbestos trash was safely isolated so it was easy to just pull some of the Aluminum items out but the worry of police
showing up & it could even get messier that the police get DEP involved cause a scrapper disrupted a Asbestos trash container next thing you know
Fines . Soooo yup I moved on after 5 min's
Last edited by CopperHeadAKA; 07-30-2017 at 10:33 PM.
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What btkr said. Our regs say to soak with water and double-bag. Once you do that, it can go into a lined landfill.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
Buddy of mine from Hope B.C..
Don Garrett says it should have been one of the simplest construction jobs he'd ever done.
Instead, the British Columbia contractor said he was exposed to high levels of asbestos, almost lost his business and has been fighting with federal government bureaucrats for more than three years.
"I was taking this material home, it was on my clothes. I didn’t know I was dealing with asbestos so it entered my household," said Garrett.
Garrett said Public Works didn't follow its own requirement to produce a pre-construction, hazardous materials report. CBC (CBC)
Garrett owns a construction business in Hope, B.C. In 2009, he was contracted by Public Works Government Services Canada to replace 160 sinks and toilets inside the Kent Institution — a maximum security, federal prison in B.C.'s Fraser Valley.
Asbestos discovered during prison job
The job should have taken a month to complete, he said, but it took seven months from start to finish. He blames the delays on the discovery of asbestos on three separate occasions.
"A project in an older building where there’s a chance of having asbestos, there’s a requirement to produce a pre-construction, hazardous materials report and that should have been with the tender package. It wasn’t. I remember writing and asking for that two to three times," said Garrett.
While replacing prison toilets, Garrett said he had to replace small gaskets that were old and difficult to remove. It required scraping and grinding. It wasn’t until several days into the job he realized the gaskets were made of asbestos.
I'd breathed this material without a mask or any sort of containment for a whole week — wire brushing, scraping, filing — very difficult to remove. The whole floor was covered in this material," recalled Garrett.
Inmate swept up asbestos with broom
A report from Work Safe BC confirms Garrett and his construction workers "were exposed to asbestos containing material in the plumbing hardware."
Lab tests revealed the gasket contained 85 to 90 per cent chrysotile asbestos, a human carcinogen, according to the report.
"My crew was exposed too. Actually, when asbestos finally got cleaned up there was an inmate who swept it up with a push broom..."
"The guards, they're afraid to bring this forward for fear of reprisals," he said.
Corrections officers concerned
Correctional officers inside the Kent Institution are also concerned about exposure to asbestos on this and previous occasions. Gord Robertson, the Pacific regional president for the Union of Canadian Correctional Officers, said his members were aware of various asbestos removal issues when Garrett worked at Kent.
"Officers at the time were concerned their feelings of being exposed were being minimized. They felt their reporting went basically unheard. We are concerned about maybe not a cover-up, but a minimization of the situation," said Robertson.
The office of Corrections Investigator Howard Sapers is now probing the case.
Garrett has had CAT scans and pulmonary tests. He's found a mark on one lung, but he said there’s no way of knowing if that’s from exposure at the prison.
"They want a steady amount of testing to monitor what that asbestos is doing in my lungs… asbestos can be a death sentence. It haunts me."
Garrett said Public Works doesn’t follow its own rules when it comes to maintaining health and safety in the workplace — for government workers or contractors. He said the department has mishandled his case.
"They figure it’s fine to avoid doing these pre-construction, hazardous materials investigations. And what I’ve experienced, when they get caught they panic and they bring in consultants…there should be an inventory of any hazardous materials and it seems to me, if they have an inventory, they’re certainly not maintaining it."
Commissioner says issues dealt with 'appropriately'
Garrett said Public Works also owes him money for the delays during his work at Kent prison.
'Asbestos can be a death sentence. It haunts me' —contractor Don Garrett, more than three years after his exposure.
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Let me get this straight - Red warning tape with an asbestos warning surrounding the dumpster and you went in anyway. Strike 1
5 minutes of seeing bags tied shut with red tape and your still messing around in it! Strike 2
Now you go on hear and tell the world what you did! Not sure what is worse, admitting what you did or the possibility of getting cancer later on because of it. STRIKE 3 - YOU'RE OUT!!!
Last edited by mthomasdev; 08-01-2017 at 07:15 PM.
Copper Head
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The Al items had nothing to do with asbestos and was massive in quantity - the container had a few bags as such as said .
I have been doing construction since 1980 Many of us craftsmen just worked back then & now working around trash I suspect STRIKE 3 many a time If some thing happens with my lungs gonna be hard for me to pin point .
One of my worst encounters I was about 19 years old working for a carpenter contractor he put me on a project no mask
sledge hammer work on a wall causing a dust filled room -
I've got dozens of stories
I'm here to tell you 1980's not to much paying attention . to asbestos , Lead dust
we just worked .
12 years ago worked in a 100 year old building along side plumbers
you just never really know during those times your just a laborer .
I worked Flat roofs scraping some sorta board material
under the old Rubber roofing
That dumpster was a walk in the park .
I am healthy but For sure was a happy innocent worker like many of my day .
Heck - pre 1977 auto shop in high school we changed brake pads & played with Mercury
I'm old school my fellow members and those were some great times
get some business cards and went to work no regulations .
Modern times we worry of every little thing ,
With little concern how past politician's gave a path for ICBM nuclear bombs to Iran & Korea
Cash In The Trash
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Every single job I am on that requires a lot of asbestos removal .
You should see what they rip out of old school houses !
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