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    It would seem a progressive movement spanning generations has disassembled the metal industry .
    It seems to me these tariffs will not even the playing field as we can't produce enough metals to cover a completive pricing
    America with re-elections a complete change occurs views to the Left , views to the Right

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    re building industries that will last 25 years


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    I think one needs to look at the bigger picture. In my opinion this move was more about national security than about job creation. We have allowed our ability to produce steel (tanks ship, jeeps etc) and aluminum (aircraft) to fall to dangerous levels We would never be able to reproduce what we did in WW11 and I don't believe we have to with the advancements in todays military. However if we were to have a full scale war it would likely be with North Korea and the reality is that China could very well side with them. In that event we certainly couldn't rely on China to provide us with either steel or aluminum...could we?

    China has been silently developing a massive war machine and it is making those in power rather nervous. Just this week we sent the Carl Vinson aircraft carrier to Vietnam as a show of force and we have also agreed to talks with North Korea. I'm definitely not a conspiracy nut, but these are just some observations I have recently noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperHeadAKA View Post
    It would seem a progressive movement spanning generations has disassembled the metal industry .
    It seems to me these tariffs will not even the playing field as we can't produce enough metals to cover a completive pricing
    America with re-elections a complete change occurs views to the Left , views to the Right

    If
    RLS0812
    is correct , I can see that there will not be agreement's for
    re building industries that will last 25 years
    The progressive movement??? Conservatives are the free traders that expanded globalism and opened up markets to China. That's were the smelters went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogscrapping View Post
    The progressive movement??? Conservatives are the free traders that expanded globalism and opened up markets to China. That's were the smelters went.
    Smelters went to china due to extreme govt regulations that DID NOT make it fair to do business here in the US when under democratic policies and presidencies, that also killed manufacturing. Just like that bogus Paris climate agreement crap and all the phony "global warming" garbage. Remember in the 90's when "OMG theres a hole in the ozone layer!!!", that was debunked also. I haven't heard anyone talk about ozone layer in a solid 10-15yrs. When I hear the term globalists, people like George Soros, Buffet, , and the like come to mind. The USA is no longer going to keep getting the chorizo when it comes to manufacturing and trade. The asians and mexico have ripped off more and more of our products, and it happens daily. American consumers have become total cheap asses who don't care about quality anymore, and it shows. I own a small company that has machined items made in the states, and when I started I had asian shops wanting to get my dollar worse than a local hooker. Told every one of them to pound sand. I'm glad these tariffs are happening, its a giant win for manufacturing in this country.
    Don't get me started on these stupid laundry soap eating kids thinking they know everything about firearms and life.......
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