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    Let me ask you, If you were running a store like Lowes selling all kinds of construction material, you place an order for 48,000lbs. of cement blocks. Thats a perfectly normal weight for flatbeds to haul. The place you order from uses their own trucks. The trucker gets into a fatal accident. They do an investigation and find that the truck that was hauling the material was only a single axle day cab. Would you now be accountable for that accident? all you did was place an order from a company for a certain amount of material.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
    Your beginning to sound like NP and this line of conversation is getting real ****ing boring.

    As previously stated, See something, say something.

    Get with the ****ing program dude, MAGA.
    NP? Don't know what that is. I assume slang for something.

    Boring? Well... why chime in?
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    The quickest way to kill a friendly conversation, bring up politics or religion.

    Lets not get all political around here and keep topics related to scrapping metals and making money .... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
    IMO, if SKWwrapper wants the scrap yards to be held accountable ie change the laws to enforce these changes he should petition his congressman.

    I said nothing about changing the laws. I was talking about ethics primarily if you take a closer peek... it's along the same lines as see something say something - the yard "saw" the desperate guy with the dangerous load, but I guess they should ignore it if they are going to make profit? Again - I get it. Greed runs the world. Ethics are hardly understood - and laws can't change people's minds.

    There's no "law" that makes a scrapyard decide to (try to) refuse tin cans... there's no law that a scrapyard refuse to take chain link fence, or plastic tub dishwashers, microwave oven or printers - "no smoking in the shredder yard" it's their own policy. No law is needed for a yard to create a policy on their own property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgold12 View Post
    I'm going to rename my pet rock after you and have it neutered.
    Something to do I guess. I didn't know I made that much of an impression on you.

    I am going to format some drives and contact some buyers here. Should of done that before instead of going to a yard with them last time. Hindsight is 20/20. One buyer less than a 30 minute drive from me and another near some of my wife's relatives to the north.
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    whaaatever

    I still don't get it - I kinda don't care. LOL sorry not into politics - I assume that's some political reference.

    Yeah I am certain it would help - giving a peddler a penalty for overloading their truck if all yards in close proximity did it. I don't care if you agree or not.

    It's the same reason dumps around here charge more for vehicles without a covered load, it kinda works (sighs all over the highway that it's illegal) - but there would be no hilariously overloaded pickups to laugh at if things were that way with scrapyards, and less revenue for the PD and county for issuing citations I suppose, kinda like speed cameras - generates revenue but does nothing for safety (snaps a pic of the speeder but does not slow them down like an officer would).


    Meanwhile - I've loaded up the car trunk with a bunch of e-waste, and aluminum etc... Gotta bring in the truck tomorrow - and not overload it - but good to know I could be idiot enough to overload it and get away with it and cash it all in, not that I would...

    I have some stuff (once separated and sorted etc...) I might post to see if someone here wants to buy....

    BTW my sedan looks nicer parked next to my colleagues' car, and I brought down the value of his car by parking next to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKWrapper View Post
    I still don't get it - I kinda don't care. LOL sorry not into politics - I assume that's some political reference.

    Yeah I am certain it would help - giving a peddler a penalty for overloading their truck if all yards in close proximity did it. I don't care if you agree or not.

    It's the same reason dumps around here charge more for vehicles without a covered load, it kinda works (sighs all over the highway that it's illegal) - but there would be no hilariously overloaded pickups to laugh at if things were that way with scrapyards, and less revenue for the PD and county for issuing citations I suppose, kinda like speed cameras - generates revenue but does nothing for safety (snaps a pic of the speeder but does not slow them down like an officer would).


    Meanwhile - I've loaded up the car trunk with a bunch of e-waste, and aluminum etc... Gotta bring in the truck tomorrow - and not overload it - but good to know I could be idiot enough to overload it and get away with it and cash it all in, not that I would...

    I have some stuff (once separated and sorted etc...) I might post to see if someone here wants to buy....

    BTW my sedan looks nicer parked next to my colleagues' car, and I brought down the value of his car by parking next to him.


    MMMMMMM that is a nice ass car (his not your sedan LOL), also looks like a nice load there

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    Quote Originally Posted by kss View Post
    MMMMMMM that is a nice ass car (his not your sedan LOL)
    He's a good friend, he told me he actually appreciates me parking next to him cause' he knows I won't door ding him - and it's partly why I did it, and he's next to a disabled parking spot that's never used.
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    I love making stuff look worth nothing. One of my crazy fantasies is to go to a nice restaurant with my 1986 Dodge and have it valeted. I just want to see the look of the guy who has to valet a truck with a scrap cage on it, and a miscolored door.

    Trips out here are a lot longer than most of you have, but I'd never drive something as stupid as the truck in this thread- not even if the scrapyard was right across the street. There's a reason there are things called "Trailers"
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    Quote Originally Posted by matador View Post
    I love making stuff look worth nothing. One of my crazy fantasies is to go to a nice restaurant with my 1986 Dodge and have it valeted. I just want to see the look of the guy who has to valet a truck with a scrap cage on it, and a miscolored door.

    Trips out here are a lot longer than most of you have, but I'd never drive something as stupid as the truck in this thread- not even if the scrapyard was right across the street. There's a reason there are things called "Trailers"

    I would LOVE to see that. If you do it, please bring along a go-pro, film it, and throw it up on the youtube. In almost an exact reverse of that situation (crap car, in nice place vs nice car in crap place), before I got my truck I was pulling up to the scrap yard in a nice, V8, 400hp Mercedes Benz and unloading scrap. Also used that to pick up stuff out of the garbage. For sure got some looks and raised eyebrows.... What vehicle you have shouldn't define someone, but people definitely expect different people and different professions to drive different vehicles....

    Which is odd since the most common vehicle of millionaires is a ford F150 truck. People expect people with money to drive something flashy, when infact it is usually the people in the flashy cars with no money and in a ton of debt, and the people in the beaters and trucks that have the most money.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kss View Post
    I would LOVE to see that. If you do it, please bring along a go-pro, film it, and throw it up on the youtube. In almost an exact reverse of that situation (crap car, in nice place vs nice car in crap place), before I got my truck I was pulling up to the scrap yard in a nice, V8, 400hp Mercedes Benz and unloading scrap. Also used that to pick up stuff out of the garbage. For sure got some looks and raised eyebrows.... What vehicle you have shouldn't define someone, but people definitely expect different people and different professions to drive different vehicles....

    Which is odd since the most common vehicle of millionaires is a ford F150 truck. People expect people with money to drive something flashy, when infact it is usually the people in the flashy cars with no money and in a ton of debt, and the people in the beaters and trucks that have the most money.....
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    I've never understood the whole "make people think you have money with what you drive" logic. I'm a huge Dave Ramsey guy, so I'm sure that tells a lot about my thinking. But, I honestly don't care what people think of me. That Dodge was paid for the moment the auctioneer said "Sold", and I've more than made my money off of her. Best $450 I ever spent....

    Between the scrap side of my business growing and my More Than Scrap business here going well, I don't even have time to worry about the Dodge. As long as she runs, she has a home.

    KSS, I can't remember if this impacted your lot or not... but about a month ago the transmission in my Jetta decided it didn't want to get me home. So, I rode home with a friend, borrowed his car trailer, and towed it home the next day. The car dying pissed me off, but I was more pissed off that I had lots in to test for people, and I was wasting an entire day to go pick up the stupid car. I had another time where the neighbor needed someone to drive a grain truck in on short notice. I had packages to ship. So, I did what any person would do....



    I swear, at some point I should just start a thread about all the things that have happened to me with vehicles. I've done a lot of odd things. I look outside my window at my pallet hauling trailer, and want to shake my head at how rednecked my setup is. But, compared to what I've done in the past, it's a lot better.

    Maybe I'm losing the stupidity I had when I was younger....
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    Quote Originally Posted by matador View Post
    Maybe I'm losing the stupidity I had when I was younger....
    Making good decisions comes from experience, and experience comes from making bad decisions.

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    Experience could also come from being taught the right. I now some people who have 25 years of experience doing something the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDC76 View Post
    Making good decisions comes from experience, and experience comes from making bad decisions.
    Well said my friend. That has been my entire life. And it’s worked out great . Getting back to the overloaded truck yea obviously it’s not safe . I see this in the Chicagoland area all the time it is what it is . All you have to do is use common sense and stay far behind him or pass him .

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    Quote Originally Posted by matador View Post
    I've never understood the whole "make people think you have money with what you drive" logic.
    You either have $$ or you don't. Car is nearly irrelevant. I personally know a millionaire that regularly drives what would be considered "lesser" than my 94 S10 - and I know several people with similar income to mine that drive a very nice, very expensive car.

    I don't care what people think of me either. If I did, and I were of high school mentality, I probably wouldn't ever be seen ruining metal or e-waste in my pickup since the stereotype of a scrapper is a poor, un-educated crackhead trying to get $$ for drugs LOL.

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    Presentation is important ... especially when running a business.

    Agree with it or not ... most people go by looks. You never get a second chance to make a first impression on a new customer.

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    Honestly I don't care but the guy obviously has problems...…..If he is driving that truck he his in serious bad shape...…..He will get pulled over sooner or later and just put himself deeper in debt...…….The endless cycle of poverty...…..He won't have enough money to fix the truck or pay the tickets and will end up back in jail not being able to work at all...…….We must somehow break the cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    Honestly I don't care but the guy obviously has problems...…..If he is driving that truck he his in serious bad shape...…..He will get pulled over sooner or later and just put himself deeper in debt...…….The endless cycle of poverty...…..He won't have enough money to fix the truck or pay the tickets and will end up back in jail not being able to work at all...…….We must somehow break the cycle

    This is probably true. This is probably a person who is trying to stretch every dollar they have, and probably has some issue and needs money.... I do feel bad for their situation, and people in similar situations. They seem like they got there with no harm, no foul. But it is obviously not something anyone would approve of.

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    I would have told them it’s a package deal for truck and scrap

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    Worked in a scrap yard years ago, guy drives in with a truck loaded something like the OP, soon as he pulls off the scale the truck broke in half, so the whole thing stayed

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