Dont be this guy.....

**SKWrapper** · 12-10-2019, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries

a junkyard has no idea whats rolling down the road about to come onto the scale. How can you hold me liable for someone coming to my yard when I had no knowledge of anything they did before they entered my driveway? If they make it I will see what they have but now I'm in a pickle. because if you want the whole turnaround thing to happen like tarps at the dump, then legally I am not allowed to let this guy unload. but morally if this guy wrecks and kills someone heading home loaded and unsafe when he could have been empty going home then that is my fault. sorry if I ramble a bit I'm loosing my mind out here and about to fall asleep at the moment. But do you get the point I was trying to make?

I absolutely get the point you made and I didn't mean to offend you.

For something to work like what I suggested, all yards in close proximity of each other would have to all have the same or similar policy, it actually would be profitable to the yard because you could pay less to the careless people - ex. they only get 50% shred price for their dangerous load.

I agree turning them away would be more of a disaster and then as you suggested if they hurt someone even though legally you would not be responsible but ethically you might be a little guilty cause you didn't let them unload, they could have had an empty truck - at the same time you had nothing to do with the idiot loading up his truck like that to begin with - and he's probably going to do it again - and so the cycle continues. Nothing really you can do.

**ScrapmanIndustries** · 12-11-2019, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by SKWrapper

I absolutely get the point you made and I didn't mean to offend you.

For something to work like what I suggested, all yards in close proximity of each other would have to all have the same or similar policy, it actually would be profitable to the yard because you could pay less to the careless people - ex. they only get 50% shred price for their dangerous load.

I agree turning them away would be more of a disaster and then as you suggested if they hurt someone even though legally you would not be responsible but ethically you might be a little guilty cause you didn't let them unload, they could have had an empty truck - at the same time you had nothing to do with the idiot loading up his truck like that to begin with - and he's probably going to do it again - and so the cycle continues. Nothing really you can do.

Yeah, I wasn't offended. just tired. When I get tired sometimes I can ramble online about things i have some type of passion in. But yeah theres really not much we can do at the yard to stop that sorta thing from happening. As someone who actually had to interact with customers coming in, I've seen a fair bit of things come across the scale, but turning them away if they have a sketchy load won't stop anything really. If anything that law the landfills have with the tarps just encourages illegal dumping in my opinion. When I was working for the state the bosses made me go out and refuse an incoming load of salt that we ordered because the driver didn't have a tarp. So instead of doing the right thing he just wanted the load off his truck so he dumped it in the middle of the road so that we'd have to work harder to clean it up. Same thing happens with trash. why buy a tarp and then pay the dump fee when theres an isolated section of land nearby to get rid of stuff for "Free". not saying its the right thing to do. Actually I get really pissed seeing things dumped illegally, but its the reality. Not trying to dive into political beliefs but thats just what I've seen first hand.

But on a side note, has steel started to come back up in price recently? last time I heard it was $2/hundred at most places. Is it still in that ball park?

**mikeinreco** · 12-11-2019, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries

Yeah, I wasn't offended. just tired. When I get tired sometimes I can ramble online about things i have some type of passion in. But yeah theres really not much we can do at the yard to stop that sorta thing from happening. As someone who actually had to interact with customers coming in, I've seen a fair bit of things come across the scale, but turning them away if they have a sketchy load won't stop anything really. If anything that law the landfills have with the tarps just encourages illegal dumping in my opinion. When I was working for the state the bosses made me go out and refuse an incoming load of salt that we ordered because the driver didn't have a tarp. So instead of doing the right thing he just wanted the load off his truck so he dumped it in the middle of the road so that we'd have to work harder to clean it up. Same thing happens with trash. why buy a tarp and then pay the dump fee when theres an isolated section of land nearby to get rid of stuff for "Free". not saying its the right thing to do. Actually I get really pissed seeing things dumped illegally, but its the reality. Not trying to dive into political beliefs but thats just what I've seen first hand.

But on a side note, has steel started to come back up in price recently? last time I heard it was $2/hundred at most places. Is it still in that ball park?

Got $5/100 for shred here Knoxville tn...…….Agree about the trash...…..municipalities need to make it easy and cheap for people to dispose of waste or unfortunately people dispose of it the best they can legal or illegal...…...Facts of life

**pappawheelie** · 12-30-2019, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries

Yeah, I wasn't offended. just tired. When I get tired sometimes I can ramble online about things i have some type of passion in. But yeah theres really not much we can do at the yard to stop that sorta thing from happening. As someone who actually had to interact with customers coming in, I've seen a fair bit of things come across the scale, but turning them away if they have a sketchy load won't stop anything really. If anything that law the landfills have with the tarps just encourages illegal dumping in my opinion. When I was working for the state the bosses made me go out and refuse an incoming load of salt that we ordered because the driver didn't have a tarp. So instead of doing the right thing he just wanted the load off his truck so he dumped it in the middle of the road so that we'd have to work harder to clean it up. Same thing happens with trash. why buy a tarp and then pay the dump fee when theres an isolated section of land nearby to get rid of stuff for "Free". not saying its the right thing to do. Actually I get really pissed seeing things dumped illegally, but its the reality. Not trying to dive into political beliefs but thats just what I've seen first hand.

But on a side note, has steel started to come back up in price recently? last time I heard it was $2/hundred at most places. Is it still in that ball park?

The BEST and CHEAPEST "tarp" I use is an old trampoline mesh mat !!!!