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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Why would I stay and be party to those who were remiss in their fiduciary duty to inform a new member of the dangers of Freon's ability to make phosgene gas when it comes into contact with a flame.

    I'm tired of being the watch dog for the mutts on this forum, as members its your duty to inform others of the possible dangers they may encounter.

    The scrap metal forum portrays itself as one big family.

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    Each parent owes to each child, as a legal matter, a fiduciary duty. The parent is required by law to act in the best interest of the child and failure to do so can impose both civil and criminal liability (child neglect.) And, since the child is a minor, there can be no waiver of such fiduciary duty by the child.

    Alloy take care when swinging a big hammer.....you might smash your thumb.

    There, I did my fiduciary duty...now who is going to clean up my duty??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabescrapper View Post
    That would be nice. I actually have the frame and wheels of an old tent trailer that's full of lumber right now but I bet it wouldn't take much to get some stakes built for it and throw a plate on it. It's only $50 a year here to license a utility trailer so a few trips would pay for that. It's not 16 ft long but it's probably 10 or 12 anyhow. Thanks for the inspiration.
    No problem. If you are able to get it modified, you will find it a good place to store shred until you have a full load (it is a lot more organized and looks better than a bunch of scrap all over the place). Then when you do have a full load, all you have to do is hook up and go as it is already loaded. Plus the trailer allows you to pick up a larger load if one comes available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Why would I stay and be party to those who were remiss in their fiduciary duty to inform a new member of the dangers of Freon's ability to make phosgene gas when it comes into contact with a flame.

    I'm tired of being the watch dog for the mutts on this forum, as members its your duty to inform others of the possible dangers they may encounter.

    The scrap metal forum portrays itself as one big family.

    Source.

    Each parent owes to each child, as a legal matter, a fiduciary duty. The parent is required by law to act in the best interest of the child and failure to do so can impose both civil and criminal liability (child neglect.) And, since the child is a minor, there can be no waiver of such fiduciary duty by the child.
    Most of us are aware even after an AC unit has been evacuated some freon still remains with the compressor oil, wannabescrapper works night shift and has a lot of free time on his hands.

    He dismantles things inside his van to pass the time, would you dismantle AC units in an enclosed space, claims he wore a respirator. What did his faithful companion wear - the dog.

    That refrigerant line first image was in no way cut by a professional.

    Personally I thjnk for the safety of wannabescrapper and his dog this incident should be reported to the authority;s..

    WARNING! Working with chlorofluorocarbon 113 (CFC-113) or other chlorofluorocarbons in confined spaces may cause death by cardiac arrhythmia or asphyxiation.




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    Quote Originally Posted by alloy2 View Post
    Most of us are aware even after an AC unit has been evacuated some freon still remains with the compressor oil,
    I remember reading a freonjoe thread where he said after the refrigerant is recovered, some gas can be trapped under the oil in the compressor. If you hit the compressor with a hammer a few times you can hear a hiss of the freon trapped under the oil escaping from the compressor.

    I even had drained units from condensers the hvac shop recovered and when i set them down, just from the weight of those things hitting the garage floor released the trapped refrigerant. Its not much but still dont want to breath that ****
    Last edited by greytruck; 04-26-2022 at 10:33 AM.

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    [QUOTE=alloy2;310126

    He dismantles things inside his van to pass the time, would you dismantle AC units in an enclosed space, claims he wore a respirator. What did his faithful companion wear - the dog.

    That refrigerant line first image was in no way cut by a professional.

    Personally I thjnk for the safety of wannabescrapper and his dog this incident should be reported to the authority;s..
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    What the hell? My dog was never in the van with me when I was at work, or when I scrapped these out in the van, with the three doors open and a respirator on. Do me a favour, Gill. Call the authorities on me. You know my phone number and location. I read your email strin this morning and realized that you are not a good person at all. Why would you send me all of this help with veiled threats to report me? Be a man. Say what you mean. Don't allude to reporting me, just report me. Let's play a game and see who can make the other one's life the hardest. You could have told me all of this when you phoned me last night instead of me getting to wake up and read it this morning. What a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabescrapper View Post
    That would be nice. I actually have the frame and wheels of an old tent trailer that's full of lumber right now but I bet it wouldn't take much to get some stakes built for it and throw a plate on it. It's only $50 a year here to license a utility trailer so a few trips would pay for that. It's not 16 ft long but it's probably 10 or 12 anyhow. Thanks for the inspiration.
    It can help and it is way cheaper than buying another trailer for sure, but old tent trailers are not the strongest trailers. I don't know if you can make the frame stronger, but I would take it in consideration before loading full heavy loads of shred to haul 1h00-1h30 away. It would s*ck to have a breakdown in the middle of nowhere. Maybe I would keep the old tent trailer for local use and keep the 16 ft one to haul stuff to the scrap yard. My 2 cents.
    NEW TO SCRAPPING? READ THIS: Build up your horde of magnetic and non-magnetic metals in two piles until you have a better understanding of the business. Magnetic material has low value and is mostly always steel / shred / short iron. Read old threads about non-magnetic metals and ewaste (and how to sort them), but don't forget that they generally have absolutely no tolerance for contamination (screw / iron / foreign material).

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    I don't want to breathe it either and thiought I was protecting myself with the respirator and opening the doors. I have a lot of lung problems and don't need anything to complicate it so I will not be scrapping out AC units without doing more research on the subject. I have already inquired into taking the ODP course and have started the research into properly evacuating refrigerants. Until I learn more about it I won't be touching them again. I will also post the video of me scrapping them out, so there can be no doubt from the peanut gallery that I did not put my dog at risk of anything.

    Thanks for the info on the gas being trapped. That's helpful to know.

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    I don't have a 16 foot one but I'll see if a friend can have a look and maybe reinforce this one. If not, I will just keep it for storing lumber in the yard. Thanks for the info, you're right that it would suck to have a break down, especially with the amount of hills we have here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabescrapper View Post
    What the hell? My dog was never in the van with me when I was at work, or when I scrapped these out in the van, with the three doors open and a respirator on. Do me a favour, Gill. Call the authorities on me. You know my phone number and location. I read your email strin this morning and realized that you are not a good person at all. Why would you send me all of this help with veiled threats to report me? Be a man. Say what you mean. Don't allude to reporting me, just report me. Let's play a game and see who can make the other one's life the hardest. You could have told me all of this when you phoned me last night instead of me getting to wake up and read it this morning. What a wolf in sheep's clothing.
    Now that I have your attention.

    Freon is 4 times heavier than air and sinks to the ground/floor initially when a leak occurs. Freon will rapidly disperse due to its high volatility.

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    In case anyone was thinking I was holed up inside the van while doing this. The reason I chuckle at the start of this is because I realized I had taken the entire video of me scrapping with the lens pointing upward in selfie mode. I had stuck it in a slot on the open van door and must have switched it with my fat thumb.

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    I thought alloy left....I even said we would miss him

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    wannabescrapper something you should be aware of while dismantling microwaves for their copper.

    Health Hazard Information

    Acute Health Effects


    The following acute (short
    -term) health effects may occur
    immediately or shortly after exposure to Barium:

    Contact can irritate and burn the skin and eyes.

    Inhaling Barium can irritate the nose, throat and lungs
    causing coughing, wheezing and/or shortness of breath.

    Very high exposure can cause Barium poisoning with
    symptoms of nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, irregular heartbeat,
    muscle weakness, tremors, paralysis and even death.

    Chronic Health Effects


    The following chronic (long-term) health effects can occur at
    some time after exposure to Barium and can last for months or
    years:

    Cancer Hazard


    While Barium has been tested, it is not classifiable as to its
    potential to cause cancer.

    Reproductive Hazard


    While Barium has been tested, further testing is required to
    assess its potential to cause reproductive harm

    Other Effects


    Barium can irritate the lungs. Repeated exposure may
    cause bronchitis to develop with coughing, phlegm, and/or
    shortness of breath.

    Barium may damage the kidneys.

    Repeated exposure may cause an abnormal chest x-ray.
    This usually takes years to develop.

    Last edited by alloy2; 04-26-2022 at 11:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabescrapper View Post
    What the hell? My dog was never in the van with me when I was at work, or when I scrapped these out in the van, with the three doors open and a respirator on. Do me a favour, Gill. Call the authorities on me. You know my phone number and location. I read your email strin this morning and realized that you are not a good person at all. Why would you send me all of this help with veiled threats to report me? Be a man. Say what you mean. Don't allude to reporting me, just report me. Let's play a game and see who can make the other one's life the hardest. You could have told me all of this when you phoned me last night instead of me getting to wake up and read it this morning. What a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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    And if you don't like TOOL or don't wanna listen to the audio here are the lyrics

    He had a lot to say
    He had a lot of nothing to say
    We'll miss him
    We'll miss him
    He had a lot to say
    He had a lot of nothing to say
    We'll miss him
    We'll miss him
    We're gonna miss him
    We're gonna miss him
    So long
    We wish you well
    You told us how you weren't afraid to die
    Well, so long
    Don't cry
    Or feel too down
    Not all martyrs see divinity
    But at least you tried
    Standing above the crowd
    He had a voice that was strong and loud
    We'll miss him
    We'll miss him
    Ranting and pointing his finger
    At everything but his heart
    We'll miss him
    We'll miss him
    We're gonna miss him
    We're gonna miss him
    No way to recall
    What it was that you had said to me?
    Like I care at all
    But it was so loud
    You sure could yell
    You took a stand on every little thing
    And so loud
    You could be the one who saves me from my own existence
    Warn while some child might chill, nine-one-two
    I'm too smart when you're invisible by the bone symbol on you
    So he bashes his skull through the window while looking out to the sea
    Like torment of my ego
    And we're amused by this
    Yeah, standing above the crowd
    He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
    Swallowed his facade 'cause I'm so
    Eager to identify with
    Someone above the ground
    Someone who seemed to feel the same
    Someone prepared to lead the way
    And someone who would die for me
    Will you?
    Will you now?
    Would you die for me?
    Don't you ****in' lie
    Don't you step out of line
    Don't you step out of line
    Don't you step out of line
    Don't you ****in' lie
    You've claimed all this time that you would die for me
    Why then are you so surprised when you hear your own eulogy?
    He had a lot to say
    He had a lot of nothing to say
    He had a lot to say
    He had a lot of nothing to say
    Come down
    Get off your ****ing cross
    We need the ****ing space to nail the next fool martyr
    To ascend you must die
    You must be crucified
    For our sins and our lies
    Goodbye

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    Barium or beryllium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinreco View Post
    And if you don't like TOOL or don't wanna listen to the audio here are the lyrics.
    There are people who don't like TOOL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperMiner View Post
    Barium or beryllium?
    Man, I sure hope it's beryllium because my doctor has made me drink barium a bunch of times.

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    Propane tank valve removal tool almost completed, once cut in half this will make two sockets. Tomorrow a half inch drive will be added to the end of each tool then the Milwaukee impact will do all the hard work.






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