Why pull a baton when you can pull a 45?Originally Posted by GeorgeB
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Why pull a baton when you can pull a 45?
Experienced Scrapper
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I'm in agreement with the majority on this one. 9mm beats utility knife every time. I've been in similar situations myself, no way should he have gotten away with that crap.
President, VIP Recycling
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Because self defense or not, here you can go to jail. Batons are pure self defense.
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It's good to live out west.
Recyclable Material Merchant Wholesaler
Certified Zip-Tie Mechanic
"Give them enough so they can do something with it, but not too much that they won't do nothing."
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Amen to that. We really need to hook up for a beer sometime KZ I think the 2 of us would really get along
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I would of screamed and fell into the fetal position lol!!
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No doubt PTS.
Experienced Scrapper
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lol PTS.....thank you !!!!
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I wanted to think onhow to properly respond to this one. Guy has a blade you have a baton. If guy makes it threw first couple wacks and can get close enuff to you and cut you he wins. I have gun guy has blade. Guy walks towards me with blade. I point I shoot I dial 911 tell them to send the meat wagon. Yes I am sure I will go to jail that night untill the figure out exactly what happened. But im also sure I wont be bleeding from a knife wound.
President, VIP Recycling
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I have some respect for you, so I am not going to get in a pissing match, but will say this. You all have your way and I have mine and I know how I fight with or without weapons.
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Hey I think I saw this movie...
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No pissing match needed just stating how I Feel on the issue is all and that movie rocked.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
If he pulled a knife on me I would drop the sink and tell him to back off. If he stepped towards me while holding the knife he would be shot. I dont see how you can justify pulling a deadly weapon on someone over a few bucks worth of stainless scrap. You can drive around a few days and probably find a couple of SS kitchen sinks lying around especially if you go around to houses you know are being remodeled.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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I have been to traffic court , for this & that , & one of the neat things about Traffic court is for part of your punishment they do traffic infractions last so you see the worst first. If it had been me , I would of called the cops . It is illegal to brandish a weapon towards another human . I saw guys locked up for it , one guy was using a brick another guy threating with a knife they did not do much jail of course . But the day of being locked up till bail is set then the day in court to pay a $1000 fine along with court fee's $250 will make them think twice before they ever do that again .Also you could be saving there or some ones life by being a good citizen to set in motion correct behavior in public. At the least the contractor would have realized the best way to have spent his money that day was to just give you a smile and go for a slice of pizza.
Last edited by Copper Head; 10-15-2011 at 09:18 AM.
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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I have been thinking about this thread for a while.
Since the person doing the kitchen is a contractor, that implys a contract of some sort.
If his contract is to renovate the kitchen, I expect he has to remove the kitchen parts before he puts the new stuff in.
Since he removes the kitchen, I expect its his problem how he gets rid of it & thats probably in the contract too.
How he disposes of it is irrelevant, its for the contractor to do. If the contractor gets to sell the sinktop he may get some $ for it.
I expect that when the contractor made up his pricing, he would take into account how much it costs to dump whatevers not usable & what is reusable is possibly recycled & sold.
Since he could sell the kitchen sink & get a few $ for it, it would probably offset the costs to dump the waste stuff from the old kitchen.
If all thats happened I expect he would get very irate if someone came along & removed all of the stuff that was his property & worth money to him, and then be left him with a mess to clean up by himself, in his own time & then he has to spend his good hard earned money cleaning up the worthless waste.
Now THAT would be taking money out of his pocket & therefore 'stealing food out of his family's mouth'....
So, what did the contractors contract actually say about the 'removal & disposal' of the old kitchen?
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The way I handle it is by asking at the start if they want to keep anything and if they do it has to be out of the way the morning I start otherwise everything else I will get rid of. Anything good, goes with me by the end of the day, preferably in my van or on the trailer as it's removed so it's out of site and out of mind. I then get rid of it like I said I would, how I get rid of it is my problem then, good or bad. If you are the General Contractor of the project and have a contract, usually anything that has to do with the project has to go thru the G.C. btw I only get my utility knife out if I intend to use it...like sharpen my pencil, score a line, scrape some paint.....
Experienced Scrapper
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Eesakiwi you make a good point but the contractor's argument was with the homeowner not the scrapper.
When the white man discovered this country Indians were running it
no taxes, no debt, women did all the work.
White man thought he could improve on a system like this. - Old Cherokee saying
I did not surrender, they took my horse and made him surrender. - Lone Watie
Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
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I was figuring that once the contracts been signed or motion has been started, the contractor owns the sink.
You are right, the house owner offered the sink to the scrapper.
So the argument between the contractor & scrapper was a wrong thing to do, the contractor should have went to the owner first & then the owner to the scrapper.
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I had to ask 3 different people Tenant - Landlord - 2nd tenant/owner if I could have a microwave I noticed on someones property last week.
He looked at me, smiled & said "Sure, take it" & shut the door.... Almost comical. I'm glad I asked. Carried it home at 1 am this morning.
Above was this quote
{"Also you could be saving there or some ones life by being a good citizen to set in motion correct behavior in public."}
I'm really impressed with that. I will use it in the future.
And a mention of a pizza..
A few years ago, on a TV program, they followed a few court cases, one was a pizza owner who told someone to leave his shop, he indicated towards him using a knife that was in his hand at the time.
He got charged & found guilty of assault, simply because he branded a knife while telling the guy to leave.
I think we all live on a very thin line of lawfulness & unlawfulness. A 'thin blue line' is what the Cops call it.
We can get done for assault for just pointing at a Cop with a finger, while using 'gruff'(?) body language or words.
Education for us all. We should get taught this at school.
Thanks for the thread too.
Last edited by eesakiwi; 10-17-2011 at 12:35 AM.
dude with a pickup truck
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i would have been shocked and appauled
collecting san joses scrap
Experienced Scrapper
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Amen! I woulda pulled my hatchet or my knife on him! Then again being 14 and having a broken leg, I probably wouldnt be in the same situation
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