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    All in all I guess my world has a lot more grey than yours.<<



    nothing grey when you are in court. they don't have much of a sense humor either. that is the world we all live in. including you.

    politics are already involved with and in this business. you may attempt to ignore that, but the politicians are not going to be ignoring any of us.

    the govt is broke. they see us as another form of revenue. a large source of revenue. the days of the garbage run and a little quick cash are coming to an end.

    once they legislate licenses, fee and fines. every town in america is going to instruct their cops to stop all suspected scrappers & ticket any unlicensed scrapper. they are going to check weights, lights, brakes, type of material, uncovered loads, etc. they will use this as a reason to hire even more cops and investigators. then they can inspect the all the licensed scrappers.

    how many on this forum are carrying the proper auto insurance. if you use your vehicle for business then it must be listed as such and that requires a different type of insurance. if you do not have that, you are not covered and your are in violation of mandatory insurance requirements. how much is a no proof of insurance ticket in your location.

    i don't know about that grey world, but i can guarantee you that the red and blue lights that lead to a black and white ticket will equate to a fine paid in green. those might be colors everyone understands.

    the laws pertaining to recycling, or business in general, are as much a part of recycling as how much copper is worth or what the recovery rates of motherboards are.

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    Sounds like you got it figured out for your situation, in your part of the world.

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    All in all I guess my world has a lot more grey than yours.<<

    nothing grey when you are in court. they don't have much of a sense humor either. that is the world we all live in. including you.

    politics are already involved with and in this business. you may attempt to ignore that, but the politicians are not going to be ignoring any of us.

    the govt is broke. they see us as another form of revenue. a large source of revenue. the days of the garbage run and a little quick cash are coming to an end.

    once they legislate licenses, fee and fines. every town in america is going to instruct their cops to stop all suspected scrappers & ticket any unlicensed scrapper. they are going to check weights, lights, brakes, type of material, uncovered loads, etc. they will use this as a reason to hire even more cops and investigators. then they can inspect the all the licensed scrappers.

    how many on this forum are carrying the proper auto insurance. if you use your vehicle for business then it must be listed as such and that requires a different type of insurance. if you do not have that, you are not covered and your are in violation of mandatory insurance requirements. how much is a no proof of insurance ticket in your location.

    i don't know about that grey world, but i can guarantee you that the red and blue lights that lead to a black and white ticket will equate to a fine paid in green. those might be colors everyone understands.

    the laws pertaining to recycling, or business in general, are as much a part of recycling as how much copper is worth or what the recovery rates of motherboards are.

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    Just remember the second ammendment to the constitution. We have the right to bear arms and for what reason? To protect us from the tyranny of the government. I see another civil war or an arab spring US style comming in the near future if the tards on the hill keep voting and passing laws the people dont want. Every law that is passed wether local state or national is another restriction put on your freedom. Man I want to go back to the old west days. No where did I put that link to cheaperthandirt so I canorder some more rounds.

    Rant off

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    Well if anyplace in the USA ever decides to leave the union and go back to the straight constitution this country was founded on ill be packing my bags and moving to that state. I have a feeling if any state was to do this yours might be the first. I lived in texas once I can do it again

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    Interesting thread. Nice opinions and good respect for other's opinions. Thanks for keeping this civil guys.

    Carry on.

    Oh, and don't forget Kent state.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

    Link for the yung'uns that never heard of it.

    And a link to a song about it from Neil Young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Kringle View Post
    I don't think that will ever happen because Once there is a Glimmer of it you can Bet Your A$$ Martial Law will be called and our Military will come in and Kill you This has happened several times in our Country one example was in the 30s Called the Bonus Army.

    Also America is so Divided with its people everyone will not stick together Example Teaparty/OWS but that is a Different thread we went over with for a long time.

    MDG I guess I see the country being divided as a good thing. When I was young the right had majority control over the hearts and minds of the public .....I think finally the times they are a changing. You do miss the OWS thread, I knew it!




    MDG I guess I see the country being divided as a good thing. When I was young the right had majority control over the hearts and minds of the public .....I think finally the times they are a changing. You do miss the OWS thread, I knew it!
    Success consists of going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm...... Churchill

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    The conclusion : I went & took a close look at burner .took off the doors to see the true SQ FT based on size and the 7 sections , total SQ FT 448 = about 2062 lb = $310. the owner will clean the asbestos (I am not asking questions) I will then give him 50% cut but pipes are all mine so it should be ok.

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    <<<<<I don't think that will ever happen because Once there is a Glimmer of it you can Bet Your A$$ Martial Law will be called and our Military will come in and Kill you This has happened several times in our Country one example was in the 30s Called the Bonus Army.>>>>>>


    It will happen for sure, as it has happened in in every civilization since the dawn of time, only question is in 5 years or 500

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Kringle View Post
    I don't think that will ever happen because Once there is a Glimmer of it you can Bet Your A$$ Martial Law will be called and our Military will come in and Kill you This has happened several times in our Country one example was in the 30s Called the Bonus Army.

    Also America is so Divided with its people everyone will not stick together Example Teaparty/OWS but that is a Different thread we went over with for a long time.
    The unemployed Veterans should have all worn there uniforms. Then when the Military moved in they all would have blended in.
    When the white man discovered this country Indians were running it
    no taxes, no debt, women did all the work.
    White man thought he could improve on a system like this. - Old Cherokee saying

    I did not surrender, they took my horse and made him surrender. - Lone Watie

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    Quote Originally Posted by injunjoe View Post
    The unemployed Veterans should have all worn there uniforms. Then when the Military moved in they all would have blended in.
    Still have mine ready to go in the closet.

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    MDG - "United We Stand, Divided We Fall" makes a good song title ( and btw is the state motto of the great and beautiful Commonwealth of Ky), but it's just not true. The only nations that are united under one dominant and singular viewpoint are dictatorships and they are doomed to fail
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    In countries under the Nazi occupation - controlling the population was easy - for every German soldier killed, the Nazis would grab a certain number of random civilians and summarily execute them.

    Martial Law wouldn't work in our country unless the majority of the people were behind it for some reason. For one, it's doubtful that the people in the military would go along with it for very long. Secondly, how many troops do you think it would take to subdue 300 million Americans? We haven't been able to successfully occupy much smaller countires in the recent past without a lot of internal help. Remember the anarchy of post-Katrina New Orleans? Multiply that by tens of thousands and you get an idea of the logisitics involved in bringing a widespread insurrection under control.


    Then you have to take into consideration that the citizens of this country are both armed to the teeth and genetically opposed to tyranny. If there wasn't a compelling reason for Martial Law, the government would have to resort to Nazi tactics to hold power and if they tried that !@#$$ they'd be slaughtered.
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    to control a population only requires that you disarm and silence that population.

    you do not have the right to bear arms nor do you have right to use those arms in defense. before any raging debate starts over that statement, you might want to look up all of the restrictions on who can own a gun and what kind of gun they may own. then look up all of the folks who have been incarcerated for using a weapon in defense.

    some of you are going to be very surprised when you find out which presidents and which party have passed the most gun restrictions.

    disarming the american population started several decades ago. it is at a point that total control can be easily accomplished. restricting ammunition and all of it's components is all it takes. the biggest problem any guerrilla force faces is supply's. ammunition, medical and communication.

    sun tzu, mien kampf, hitlers rise to power, & a variety of religious mythology's show the ways to oppress and control a domestic population. genghis khan proved the only successful tactic to invade and occupy a foreign country.

    there are several factions in this country that would willingly take up arms against their fellow americans for misguided beliefs of patriotism, freedom, morality and democracy. all of the emotional issues that have divided this country. any of them could be used to incite the systematic removal of one side over the other. all it would require is the guise of authoritative permission.

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    for the op. make sure you have a copy of the asbestos removal and that the remaining material has been deemed safe for removal.

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    to all you newbs out there, dont listen to these woosies and light weights. I been doin this kind of stuff all my life, no prissy masks , hasmat suits, or proper ventilation, look at me Im still here.....well sort of.

    By the way any one got a heart, a liver or, one or two lungs to donate, somthins wrong with mine they are quitting on me for some reasion.

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    lmao oldude...you certainly don't need a sense of humor transplant !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Copper Head View Post
    We really don't know the truth , I would say a healthy person can definitely expose them selves to toxins and permanently damage ones self - yet some individuals are just so strong they can go through life with little worry -- a good immune system. I know I have seen it .
    My Grandfather died just last year at 103 years old. He smoked, drank like a fish, and ate junk food his whole life. Yes some people are geneticly stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imyourgirl View Post
    My Grandfather died just last year at 103 years old. He smoked, drank like a fish, and ate junk food his whole life. Yes some people are geneticly stronger.
    I bet he was very smart also........... you know genetically.

    Nature has it's ways!

    Don't forget the new cook book 20 easy ways to Type 2

    Before;




    After;

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    old dude.

    your reply reminds me of the poem about the dog named lucky

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbrooks715 View Post
    to control a population only requires that you disarm and silence that population.

    you do not have the right to bear arms nor do you have right to use those arms in defense. before any raging debate starts over that statement, you might want to look up all of the restrictions on who can own a gun and what kind of gun they may own. then look up all of the folks who have been incarcerated for using a weapon in defense.

    some of you are going to be very surprised when you find out which presidents and which party have passed the most gun restrictions.

    disarming the american population started several decades ago. it is at a point that total control can be easily accomplished. restricting ammunition and all of it's components is all it takes. the biggest problem any guerrilla force faces is supply's. ammunition, medical and communication.

    sun tzu, mien kampf, hitlers rise to power, & a variety of religious mythology's show the ways to oppress and control a domestic population. genghis khan proved the only successful tactic to invade and occupy a foreign country.

    there are several factions in this country that would willingly take up arms against their fellow americans for misguided beliefs of patriotism, freedom, morality and democracy. all of the emotional issues that have divided this country. any of them could be used to incite the systematic removal of one side over the other. all it would require is the guise of authoritative permission.
    Well, I'm not going to discuss a hypothetical Martial Law situation anymore because there are just too many variables in that scenario, but I will agree that there would be collaborators.

    As for guns and self-defense- I think that varies a lot with locale and with the situation. My neighbor in the city was a convicted felon and sold pot. He carried a gun in his pants gangsta style and one night suceeded in shooting off one of his testicles. Despite being in violation of a number of laws (some that I thought had mandatory sentancing), he didn't get sent to jail - because the judge actually felt sorry for him! It wasn't a self defense situation - but he could have done time because he was not legally allowed to have a gun due to his legal status as a felon.

    There was a young widow recently who blew away some guy that busting down the door of her trailer - i forget where she lived- she didn't get charged. The guy and his buddy were high. Another woman in northern Ky shot and killed some student who was strung out and kept advancing toward her in her own home. He was tripping, I think. I heard many similar stories, so I don't believe that people automatically go to jail for defending themselves, far from it.


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