Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 26

PC/Electronics IC Chips how to remove?

| Dismantling, Breaking Down & Maximizing Scrap

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    PattyScrap started this thread.
    PattyScrap's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    17
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts

    PC/Electronics IC Chips how to remove?

    I used the search bar but couldn't find too much on the following..... Whats a best practice for removing these chips off the boards? Should i just go with a smash technique or what im also thinking is to grind off the connectors and the solder with a rotary tool or something....


  2. #2
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    if they're pressed in just push a small screwdriver under it and pry up. If they're soldered I think it best to just leave them on, unless you're scrapping the board.

  3. #3
    billygoat's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    631
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 491 Times in 250 Posts
    There's three ways to remove the soldered on chips. Desolder, heat gun, or grind them off. The beat-it-to death-with-a-hammer routine won't do you much good in this case. I don't know how to desolder, and my attempt to use a heat gun only blew up a neighboring capacitor. So I use a Dremel tool with a cut-off wheel. Wear safety glasses and a dust mask if you go that route. And don't purchase a cheap Harbor Freight Chicago brand knock-off rotary tool. They don't last. I found that out the hard way.

    The ones that are soldered on the same side where the chip is can be removed with a wood chisel. Make sure you know where both hands are or you can wind up with stitches or scraped knuckles.

    I only do this on low grade boards. Removing them from higher grade boards will devalue the boards
    Last edited by billygoat; 11-22-2012 at 03:52 PM.

  4. #4
    kane333 is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    kane333's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Kearneysville, WV
    Posts
    120
    Thanks
    69
    Thanked 115 Times in 47 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by PattyScrap View Post
    I used the search bar but couldn't find too much on the following..... Whats a best practice for removing these chips off the boards? Should i just go with a smash technique or what im also thinking is to grind off the connectors and the solder with a rotary tool or something....

    I found this video on stripping IC Chips.



  5. #5
    happyscraper's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    spring hill,fl
    Posts
    2,863
    Thanks
    349
    Thanked 1,370 Times in 846 Posts
    It depends on the board, if it's a low grade board then I use a 4 1/2" angle grinder and grind the solder on the back of the board. Some people take the IC chips off the green boards or the higher grade boards if they are the type that plug into a socket, my buyer says leave those chips on the board or it will be down graded, but he also pays very well for green boards. I think it will be up to your buyer weather or not to take the IC chips off of high grade boards. Hope this helps.

  6. #6
    eesakiwi is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    eesakiwi's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Dec 2010
    Location
    NZ
    Posts
    2,529
    Thanks
    2,906
    Thanked 2,553 Times in 1,226 Posts
    What ever you do to get the pins off once you have removed the chip, don't do this...

    It may look easy to just hold the chip vertical on its edge, then use a boxcutter knife to cut the pins off one edge, then turn it around 90deg& do the next edge.

    Whats going to happen, after a few edges the knife will get blunter, it'll take a bit more energy to cut the pins, then you have to wiggle the knife a little so it cuts thru the first few pins & then it cuts down thru the rest of the pins.

    After a few more, it'll grab one of the pins instead of cutting thru it, because you use more force, it'll rotate the chip 90deg.
    That'll pull your fingers around the chip (to your right hand side) a bit.
    Then with that amount of force, it'll slide down & slice the end off your finger & thumb.


    I use a box cutter to remove the chips, I put the board down flat & for every chip I slice one side of pins off the shortest edges (both sides)
    Then I turn the board 90deg & scrape a slice down one edge, I don't cut right thru it, just enough that I might cut thru a few pins but scrape all of that edge. ( I do it that way so theres something still attaching the chip to the board when I do the next cut, and it weakens that edge of the chip)

    I then turn the board 180deg & then slice thru the pins on their right edge. Sometimes the chip comes off. Most of the time they stay there sqewed around a bit.
    Then I go thru & lift the chips 90deg to the board with a screwdriver, still stuck on by the weakened pins.
    Then I go thru with pliers or by hand & rip the chips off.
    Last edited by eesakiwi; 11-22-2012 at 04:07 PM.

  7. #7
    billygoat's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    631
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 491 Times in 250 Posts
    Who said anything about cutting the legs off? Never heard of it.

  8. #8
    eesakiwi is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    eesakiwi's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Dec 2010
    Location
    NZ
    Posts
    2,529
    Thanks
    2,906
    Thanked 2,553 Times in 1,226 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by billygoat View Post
    Who said anything about cutting the legs off? Never heard of it.
    Theres no places close to me that buys the chips or boards. There is a escrap place but thats too far away & their prices are rubbish anyway.
    By removing the copper legs it makes it easyer to process.

    Oh, & if posting that info saves a few people from cutting the end of their fingers off.... Safety first.

    I will use a small belt sander to remove the legs.

    I just found out that you can reclaim 10gms of gold from 7Kg of flatpacks.
    Last edited by eesakiwi; 11-22-2012 at 10:26 PM.

  9. The Following 3 Users say Thank You for This Post by eesakiwi:


  10. #9
    patnor1011 is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    13
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by eesakiwi View Post
    Theres no places close to me that buys the chips or boards. There is a escrap place but thats too far away & their prices are rubbish anyway.
    By removing the copper legs it makes it easyer to process.

    Oh, & if posting that info saves a few people from cutting the end of their fingers off.... Safety first.

    I will use a small belt sander to remove the legs.

    I just found out that you can reclaim 10gms of gold from 7Kg of flatpacks.
    Yeah, I am that guy who did that experiment.
    A little clarification is due - I processed whole mix of IC chips in that experiment (s/n bridges, ram chips, eprom like chips, ...... practically whatever size black plastic IC from electronics)

    Since then (august 2011) I did many another batches but this time I separated chips to different types and sizes.
    Gold yield is then different. South/North bridge - the ones with black plastic cap and green fiber bottom yield 5g+ of gold from one kilogram. I consider them as the best from IC comonly found in modern electronics. There are certain Russian made IC chips which are like gold mine but it is increasingly hard to find them and soon they may have bigger value as collector items.
    I try to separate or categorize IC chips in few types:
    1. s/n bridge - high grade
    2. ram chips - medium to high grade
    3. all other thin IC - medium grade
    4. thick two sided eprom like IC - low grade

    I buy IC chips or I toll refine them but this is little bit out of question for most of members as I am located in Ireland and shipping, insuring and custom charges makes them more expensive in larger quantities. However we can talk about that and we may find some way.
    Pat.
    Last edited by patnor1011; 12-08-2012 at 01:48 PM. Reason: edit spelling

  11. #10
    patnor1011 is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    13
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts

    s/n bridge

    For better understanding of my classification of IC chips as in previous thread

    s/n bridge

    ram chips

    mixed but thin chips

    eprom like chips
    Last edited by patnor1011; 12-08-2012 at 01:53 PM. Reason: edited links added images

  12. #11
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    all this over a $4 a pound(=about 500 times) chip???

    (when the board is bringing almost that anyway?)

  13. #12
    billygoat's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    631
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 491 Times in 250 Posts
    Bear, that's why I said I only take them off low grade boards. My yard only pays 8 cents a pound for them. So anything worth more than that comes off the boards.

  14. The Following 2 Users say Thank You for This Post by billygoat:


  15. #13
    happyscraper's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    spring hill,fl
    Posts
    2,863
    Thanks
    349
    Thanked 1,370 Times in 846 Posts
    Yup, Billy is right only low grade boards, thats what I said in the above post. Why would anybody take the legs off the chips? I've been getting 5.00 per pound for the chips.

  16. #14
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    frankly i don't feel smashing a hundred chips for 4 or 5 bux are worth the time or trouble

  17. #15
    billygoat's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    Posts
    631
    Thanks
    99
    Thanked 491 Times in 250 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    frankly i don't feel smashing a hundred chips for 4 or 5 bux are worth the time or trouble
    Heck, I'd rather smash for 4-5 bucks than wrestle with those PITA aluminum heatsinks for 40-45 cents.

  18. #16
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by billygoat View Post
    Heck, I'd rather smash for 4-5 bucks than wrestle with those PITA aluminum heatsinks for 40-45 cents.
    haha, i'm not sure which ones you're talking about, but i do know some of those tiny ones, i just leave on there ; )

  19. #17
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    i pull cpu heatsinks on the way to the cpu , haha ; )

  20. #18
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    maybe post #2 shoulda mentioned the good ol hammer and chisel tecnique ; )

  21. #19
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    maybe post #2 shoulda mentioned the good ol hammer and chisel tecnique ; )
    only profitable if chips are gold

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to Bear for This Post:


  23. #20
    Bear is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Feb 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    5,731
    Thanks
    6,810
    Thanked 3,465 Times in 1,990 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    only profitable if chips are gold
    maybe you missed this one too ; )

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

 
Browse the Most Recent Threads
On SMF In THIS CATEGORY.





OR

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

The Scrap Metal Forum

    The Scrap Metal Forum is the #1 scrap metal recycling community in the world. Here we talk about the scrap metal business, making money, where we connect with other scrappers, scrap yards and more.

SMF on Facebook and Twitter

Twitter Facebook