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    Hope it's okay to ask a naive question here. I'm not a pro scrapper. I happen to be in possession of a gigantic steel-hulled boat, that weighs about 180 tons overall. If I was interested in scrapping her, where would I even start? Are there boat-breakers in the Los Angeles area? What kind of price would I be looking at? I've seen ranges online from $250-$450 per ton, which times 180 tons would be a lot of money in my pocket, but I don't know if I could actually realize that for myself. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


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    haha! Ebay it ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    haha! Ebay it ; )
    lol... i would contact your local yard.

    Quote Originally Posted by turner View Post
    I've seen ranges online from $250-$450 per ton,
    guessing you will have to break it down into small pieces so i doubt you will see anywhere near that much unless you plan to do all the work yourself.
    but what do i know... i never scrapped a boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turner View Post
    Hope it's okay to ask a naive question here. I'm not a pro scrapper. I happen to be in possession of a gigantic steel-hulled boat, that weighs about 180 tons overall. If I was interested in scrapping her, where would I even start? Are there boat-breakers in the Los Angeles area? What kind of price would I be looking at? I've seen ranges online from $250-$450 per ton, which times 180 tons would be a lot of money in my pocket, but I don't know if I could actually realize that for myself. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Probably need some pics, theres been a few members here scrap boats & barges for their iron etc.
    Its a **** tough job to do, though I know I 'could' do it with the right tools & a slipway. Most boats are painted with some pretty mean biologically deadly paint too.

    What else is in the boat? Engines, generator, electrics, driveshaft & props etc etc.

    $250 x 180 tons = $45,000. Thats a nice wee lump of cash & the chance that the demo can start paying for itself quickly.

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    Drag it to the desert and blow it up. Then collect the parts. Just gonna have to wait for one hell of a wave.
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    Start at the top and work your way down. Docking fees would cost you more than what you could salvage it for unless you own the dock. Things to consider are do you have access to a crane, trucking, constant supply of consumables, salvage permits for waterways (eventually you will have to cut into the fuel tanks), the list could go on and on. Bears post of ebay it would more than likely be your best option, sell it and let someone else deal with it.
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    While it sounds like a great amount of money. If you don't have experience doing it don't try it. 45 grand sounds great until you start asking questions like how do I reverse engineer something of this size and magnitude that is welded together with compartments and walls in it. There honestly aren't really going to be any scrap yards interested in straight up buying it unless they were in the boat breaking business. This boat only weights 180 tons so i doubt they would pay more then 10 grand for it. They have to dedicate the labor and machinery to complete the job. Torching and shearing whichever it requires. Hard lesson to learn and a costly one at that to. Think about it you are gonna need either a slip (money) excavator (money) labor (money) gases (money) Diesel (money) possibly a crane (money) and the biggest factor your 100 percent inexperienced (money). The inexperience is going to cost you more money then any of the other items I mentioned. I am gonna link you the USS Inaugural. It was being cut up on the Mississippi river about a mile from the arch last week. I saw the story on the news and heard they were scrapping it. The first link is the new story about the boat its weights 530 tons and its historical background. Sounds like a bunch of weight. I can hear the owner of the company that is scrapping it saying heck yeah we can do that job 530 tons that is x amount of dollars over 100 grand. Well lets just say I went and saw what they were doing with my own two eyes. 5 guys One bobcat and a john deere 160 mini excavator. The boat was full of sand and by full of sand The compartments were filled up with it. They worked 4 days and filled up a trailer that weighted less then 20,000 lbs. 4 days and they probably lost money so far. A 1/4 of the boat was still submerged under water and there was no way they were going to get the submerged hull out with that small of equipment. Long story short the Mississippi River rose up 4 feet that night and now they can't get to it because its back to being reclaimed by mother nature. That was last Tuesday its even higher now. They are losing money by the day out there now and they aren't even working on it. Here are update pictures of it to so you can see it was nothing to mess with unless you had big big equipment and a marine salvage background. Boats are nothing to mess with unless you are properly trained in disposing of them. Huge fines for even a few drops of oil or gas in a protected waterway.



    USS Inaugural To Finally Emerge From Her Watery Grave | St. Louis Public Radio

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    check into donating it for an offshore underwater sanctuary, been awhile, but I've heard of ships being sank for those in places. Maybe at least get tax writeoffs.

    Check to use it for a movie scene, let THEM blow it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by turner View Post
    Hope it's okay to ask a naive question here. I'm not a pro scrapper. I happen to be in possession of a gigantic steel-hulled boat, that weighs about 180 tons overall. If I was interested in scrapping her, where would I even start? Are there boat-breakers in the Los Angeles area? What kind of price would I be looking at? I've seen ranges online from $250-$450 per ton, which times 180 tons would be a lot of money in my pocket, but I don't know if I could actually realize that for myself. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Post it up on craigslist. lol

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    don't know how or where you got it but you may have your self a big problem, check the environmental laws and regs in CA before you touch that ship.

    here in FL the cash outlay is about $150,000 for compliance before you even start, that's why the bayous and bay shores are loaded with abandon barges and tugs. That's also why owners hire a couple of guys to secretly tow them out in the gulf and scuttle them then claim they sank

    THE RULE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHEN GOVERNMENT GETS INVOLVED. some regulation is necessary for the idiots in our society, but the governments over regulation WILL SLOWLY KILL US ALL THROUGH STARVATION. just my .02
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    Thanks, everyone. It runs and I've had it on craigslist and ebay but was wondering if it would bring more for scrap. Sounds like that's not really a possibility. Just gotta hope it sells soon. Thanks again.

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    dock it and turn it into a live abard. or a condo or a hotel or a casino or ????? what kind of ship is it ?
    up it the delta area around Sacramento /Pittsburg area there are all kinds of people looking for a live aboard. don't know how much you are asking but, $40,000 is cheap for a home these days.

    sometimes ya gotta think out side of the box.

    observe,improvise and adapt. one of the primary rules in war and scrapping. or any other business for that matter.
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    Show us the boat


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    If you have no experience, I would suggest selling it or hiring a company. Using unfamiliar tools on a project this large that you know nothing about can be deadly. I am all about learning, but this is too dangerous for someone that knows nothing. It would be like trying to take down a 3 story building with no toodl or training.

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    not the job for me

    I buy and sell all types of scrap and escrap. I buy specialty and hard to sell escrap. I buy resale items. PM me or contact me at jghilino@hotmail.com
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    thanks for posting the video

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    Thanks again. I was not at all considering doing the work myself! She runs and makes a good liveaboard, and I have it for sale on ebay and craigslist already. I was just trying to explore whether I might get more by selling her to a scrapper. Haven't been able to find one in the area though and that's where I thought I might get help here. For landmine, you can see it at 1942 Tugboat Tug 65' steel Atlas Imperial in Powerboats & Motorboats | eBay Motors, unless the forum removes the link.

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    Oh, I was expecting something a lot worse. Something more like this:

    Your boat doesn't actually look that bad, but then again, I'm not a boat expert by any means!
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    that boat looks really good for its age, even has a galley with full size appliances


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