Hey guys I appreciate the input, scrapping is a bit of a science, if you do not know the details of what you are scrapping , I am sure the yard will take full advantage of your ignorance ! I really hate to say this but every time I go to scrap something I feel like a new bride ! They don't tell you your gross weight when you pull off the scale unless you ask, you do not get ticket with any kind of number, I had on occasion they told me my full weight was 4700 pounds but when I actually weighed in mt, the new gross weight number was 4500 pounds. I had no paper and just got screwed out of 200 pounds !!! This forum is really pretty **** good !