vertical balers have a lower compaction rate for computer plastics, but they compact cardboard and paper well... which is what most of them are designed to do.
vertical balers have a lower compaction rate for computer plastics, but they compact cardboard and paper well... which is what most of them are designed to do.
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This is the best point made so far.. 60 inch baler is the way to go... You can go larger.. but I wouldn't go any smaller that is for sure.Originally Posted by Ewasted
That's really the problem. Yours bales need to be dense enough so that you can actually fit the max weight (Ideally 40K) in a truck. So a 53' truck has approx. 4,000 cubic feet of space --- so you need t compact the plastic to 10 pounds per cubic foot --- that is assuming that you can stack all the bales to use all 4000 ft. That make sense??
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Slaghunter, that makes the best sence, seams to me you should have no problem getting 10lbs per sq. ft. I have seen flat bet trucks hauling cardboard but don't ever see flat beds hauling plastic, I quess the plastic might fly off and hit someones car.
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By compaction rate i dont mean bale size, i mean the density of the bale. A vertical baler won't get you there. Plastics for maximum recovery (atleast in current market) are exported, so they dont go into a 53' truck, they are loaded into a 40 foot container.
More good information.. The best way to sell your plastic is find a buyer overseas and ship direct to them. You nor they want to waste the space inside the container. Getting the most out of the space in the container is the name of the game. Anyone can fill a container full of a product, but doing it the most efficient way is how you make money and build good relationships with commodity buyers. If they get a container and it only weighs 30000, they are going to pay you much less than you deserve and might very well shy away from buying from you in the future. It is all a numbers game in the commodity market and square inch/lbs matters.
This is also why ewasted made the point that certain balers will work while others won't. The size of the bale doesn't matter nearly as much as the density. Balers are built to compact the product to this specific density. Each product has a different density benchmark. I dealt with cardboard for a long time and there were other things to worry about like moisture etc. With plastic, it is all about how much of it can be condensed into a specific size bale.
Last edited by technologyrecycling; 09-11-2012 at 01:35 PM.
It looks and sounds alot easier than it really is. Balers arent very reliable to begin with. Nor is getting a relationship with the proper people to move the material. We've been doing business with our downstreams on plastic for over 6 years now. Ive seen alot of companies come and go, and alot of people never get paid on their loads. Like anything else in this business it is a tough gig - looks easier than it really is.
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First, if you don't generate large quantity, sell it locally. Moving such light weight and low value material, the shorter deliver distance and less handling should be the first thing taking into consideration.
I couldn't agree with ddelatorre more. There are few things in play when it comes to pc/ABS value.
1. Weight: More weight you can load into 40"/45" container will make difference on value per pound ($0.01 or $0.02, depends on shipping point and your buyers destination).
2. Size of material: The smaller size "Shredded" material will required more processing labor. (unless you are sure you have 100% ABS)
3. Color mixed: White always bring in more money compare to black. Buyers always ask the estimated percentage of the color mixed.
4. Other plastic: most TV plastic back panel is HIPS that worth less than ABS. You want to know that your buyer will take MIXED before you baled it together.
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