Green Motherboards VS. Colored "Chinese" Motherboards - Page 2

This is an excellent topic,

Thanks for bringing it up.

I have found some buyers will pay the same price for rainbow and and older p3 boards,

I've also found some buyers that will pay different on three basis,
1.Rainbow,
2.P4 boards not made in china
3.P3 and earlier

I understand that most P4 and Rainbow are from china, however, I've found a bunch made in the us only to be
put with the chi boards, is it really the socket that determine the value then.? More pins or the thickest of the pin socket. Like Pent pro sockets are big in pin sizes versus 478 p4 socket



so, yeah.. not sure.. and have not figured out why the difference.

Thanks for sharing the topic,

Originally Posted by bnbsfsd

This is an excellent topic,

Thanks for bringing it up.

I have found some buyers will pay the same price for rainbow and and older p3 boards,

I've also found some buyers that will pay different on three basis,
1.Rainbow,
2.P4 boards not made in china
3.P3 and earlier

I understand that most P4 and Rainbow are from china, however, I've found a bunch made in the us only to be
put with the chi boards, is it really the socket that determine the value then.? More pins or the thickest of the pin socket. Like Pent pro sockets are big in pin sizes versus 478 p4 socket

so, yeah.. not sure.. and have not figured out why the difference.

Thanks for sharing the topic,

The "rainbow" boards you speak of are most likely Asus type boards, with yellow swirls. These boards have a higher precious metal content than a true "rainbow" (blue,red or any color other than yellow swirl)

Both the color of the board and the size of the socket does not directly determine the "value" or precious metal content of the board. It is simply an easy way for a buyer to grade the precious metal content thus the yield of that particular board.

The three major metals that determine the value ie. the yield of a board are gold, palladium and copper. The only way to determine the yield of a particular class of board is to collect, sort and pay to have a proper assay performed by a refiners lab. This is one of the major expenses necessary for a buyer or collector to undertake in order to determine our profit margin.

To answer the initial question, a board manufactured in the 70's, 80's and early 90's will yield in some cases 10 times the precious metal content when compared to a late model board.

The simple reason this has become a current issue, there are less and less older model boards and more and more pin less processor boards being collected and it is now skewing the overall average as I discussed above.

i know of three shredders in the Denver metro area, where are the others if I may ask?

Pete

I don't know of any business that shows another business their business to get business.

I know to get some certifications you can only do business with others that have that certification or meet other requirements, mostly it is so big business only does business with big business. I don't know how far back the requirements go.

I think that ddelatorre is referring to being R2 certified so that the people that you do business with can audit your downstreams if they need to. The company that I am dealing with has R2, Rios and several ISO certifications. Therefore, I know they aren't shipping the stuff overseas and I don't have to worry any nefarious business practices.

Originally Posted by BohemianLush

I think that ddelatorre is referring to being R2 certified so that the people that you do business with can audit your downstreams if they need to. The company that I am dealing with has R2, Rios and several ISO certifications. Therefore, I know they aren't shipping the stuff overseas and I don't have to worry any nefarious business practices.

Being that I am very familiar with R2's certifications and requirements, there is nothing to prohibit a company from doing business "overseas". In fact the notion that a company as large as SIMS Metal management or Waste management one of which I'm pretty certain you've contracted with, could function on a day to day basis without filling and shipping containers is ridiculous. R2 doesn't even prohibit shipping e-waste to developing countries.

The way I look at mother board issue is just like the case of the computer.
The old case are thick steel and are heavy. The new cases are VERY thin and light.
They both work, and the new ones are much easyer to move around (sucks for scrapping)

What I ment is thing get made cheaper less material in them
Old Computer case have still. New ones realy thing steel. Made cheaper but still work just as good or better.
Mother boards are made cheaper because then can and they still work.

Back in the 80's and 90's the price of gold was about 400.00 per troy oz. today gold is over 1700 per troy oz. If they made computers the same way today as they did in the 80's or 90's we would be paying 2000.00-3000.00$ insted of 500.00 or 600.00$. And we all would be complainning about how expensive the computers are.

Originally Posted by happyscraper

Back in the 80's and 90's the price of gold was about 400.00 per troy oz. today gold is over 1700 per troy oz. If they made computers the same way today as they did in the 80's or 90's we would be paying 2000.00-3000.00$ insted of 500.00 or 600.00$. And we all would be complainning about how expensive the computers are.

The price of gold has little to do with the cost of manufacturing semiconductors. Computers used to cost more then they do today because it was profitable for everybody in the industry and there were tons of people taking a cut in thousands of companies. Remove the profit and the finished product is cheaper, of course many people out of work can't afford it anymore but CEOs don't care about people anyway.

what you mean people still buy real computers, all ive seen people buying is icrap