NuLife for CRTs

**logansryche** · 12-23-2014, 12:35 PM

Got off the phone with NuLife glass in Dunkirk, NY and they said they take tubes only at .11/lb. The guy I spoke to emailed me a video of how one of their plants in england works and said that the glass goes to a refinery and the lead goes to another refinery to make car batteries. I see this as the turning point for CRTs and this is where it all needs to go. Even to those that are out of state who feel shipping a bunch of tubes to NY is alot, it is alot but it's worth it in the name of environment cleanup. I'll be charging to accept CRT monitors and tvs now to offset the cost of refinery now.

-Matt

**diggydiggy** · 12-23-2014, 12:56 PM

stupid question Matt, are they paying .11 or charging .11 to drop off

**logansryche** · 12-23-2014, 01:19 PM

charging - I had to email the guy back and ask that myself lol. I think the amount can be written off on taxes but not sure.

**KzScrapper** · 12-23-2014, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by logansryche

I think the amount can be written off on taxes but not sure.

If your legit business, of course it's a write off.

**logansryche** · 12-23-2014, 01:53 PM

of course - business expenses and what not.

**tsmith53149** · 12-23-2014, 02:01 PM

Thats awesome

**Mvpvlad** · 12-23-2014, 02:32 PM

you had me fooled with that charging thing as well didn't read the comments and started thinking of a trip to dunkirk

**numbers** · 12-23-2014, 04:14 PM

Are they prepared for the massive tonnage that they may receive from members of this forum? This is great information.

And then, if I have to pay .11 for NuLife to process the CRT and shipping will cost .16-.19, then charging .50 cents per pound to take CRT monitors might at best be a breakeven proposition. However, I would have the copper and low grade boards.

What thoughts does anyone else have on this?

**freonjoe** · 12-23-2014, 04:18 PM

Does the CRT glass have to be shipped in special totes? Can you just ship the funnel glass ( that would save a lot right there) ?

**NHscrapman** · 12-23-2014, 04:41 PM

Transfer station uses gaylords and the tubes only are in the mix.
I was told straight tube are not preffered due to cracking, smashing, ext because of the exposed weak spot and things smashing up during transport.
They placed those on the top layer of the gaylord
YMMV
Edit The "monsters" are always too the side in their own pile

**mthomasdev** · 12-23-2014, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by logansryche

Got off the phone with NuLife glass in Dunkirk, NY and they said they take tubes only at .11/lb. The guy I spoke to emailed me a video of how one of their plants in england works and said that the glass goes to a refinery and the lead goes to another refinery to make car batteries. I see this as the turning point for CRTs and this is where it all needs to go. Even to those that are out of state who feel shipping a bunch of tubes to NY is alot, it is alot but it's worth it in the name of environment cleanup. I'll be charging to accept CRT monitors and tvs now to offset the cost of refinery now.

-Matt

Matt,

To follow up on one of your other posts, you indicated that they had a minimum load size of 1/2 a truck. I'm assuming this means 22 gaylords. Can you confirm this? Do they supply pallets, gaylords and plastic bags for in the gaylords, or is that your responsibility?

Mark

**logansryche** · 12-23-2014, 07:53 PM

Wow ^.^ I'm gone on a trip to Fulton to pick up my brother-in-law and come back to lots of questions. I love it! Ok, let's see if I can answer some questions here:

Originally Posted by mthomasdev

Matt, to follow up on one of your other posts, you indicated that they had a minimum load size of 1/2 a truck. I'm assuming this means 22 gaylords. Can you confirm this? Do they supply pallets, gaylords and plastic bags for in the gaylords, or is that your responsibility? Mark

I'll email John back and ask him just to make sure because he was talking to me this morning when I was half awake and might have misheard.

Originally Posted by Mvpvlad

you had me fooled with that charging thing as well didn't read the comments and started thinking of a trip to dunkirk

I wish smelters like NuLife gave for their glass instead of charge for it since it's going into other projects like batteries and stuff, and there's a slim possibility I might be able to squeeze a 20 from them for gas but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by numbers

Are they prepared for the massive tonnage that they may receive from members of this forum? This is great information. And then, if I have to pay .11 for NuLife to process the CRT and shipping will cost .16-.19, then charging .50 cents per pound to take CRT monitors might at best be a breakeven proposition. However, I would have the copper and low grade boards. What thoughts does anyone else have on this?

And they would thank everyone and ask for more - their site says the facility can handle over 200,000,000 lbs of glass so...

Originally Posted by freonjoe

Does the CRT glass have to be shipped in special totes? Can you just ship the funnel glass ( that would save a lot right there)?

Yes, John said that they take the tubes only by gaylords but I'd think that'd be a bit pricy(I know when I went to go price them $80's alot when you don't have it). John said since I'm closer to Dunkirk then some I'd save by not having to ship it so I take that to mean I can drive it in but I'll have to email him back to make sure.

Have more questions about CRTs or nulife? post here and I'll keep this thread updated.
-Matt

**pcscrapper** · 12-24-2014, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by logansryche

Got off the phone with NuLife glass in Dunkirk, NY and they said they take tubes only at .11/lb. The guy I spoke to emailed me a video of how one of their plants in england works and said that the glass goes to a refinery and the lead goes to another refinery to make car batteries. I see this as the turning point for CRTs and this is where it all needs to go. Even to those that are out of state who feel shipping a bunch of tubes to NY is alot, it is alot but it's worth it in the name of environment cleanup. I'll be charging to accept CRT monitors and tvs now to offset the cost of refinery now.

-Matt

I've to say I'm pretty lucky I don't have to ship it that far, got a place right next door, in iowa.. that does the same thing, and they pay last time I check was 10 cents per pound and shipping well one hour of driving,, and a C70 flat bed, with a 26ft trailer, No problemo

**numbers** · 12-24-2014, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by pcscrapper

I've to say I'm pretty lucky I don't have to ship it that far, got a place right next door, in iowa.. that does the same thing, and they pay last time I check was 10 cents per pound and shipping well one hour of driving,, and a C70 flat bed, with a 26ft trailer, No problemo

Could you share the company information with us?

**Mechanic688** · 12-24-2014, 08:35 AM

I thought I'd share these with everyone, but maybe someone can investigate them a little further to see if they are for real and what the do's and don'ts are.

Environmentally friendly and free computer recycling, computer disposal service

Complete Electronics Recycling - CRT Recycling

Monitor or CRT Recycling » Cleanlites Recycling Inc. - Cleanlites Recycling

Regency Technologies – IT Scrap - CRT Glass Separation

Midwest Electronic Recovery Cathode Ray Tube Processing and Recycling Services » Midwest Electronic Recovery

http://www.newtechrecycling.com/disp...itors-tvs.html

http://transparentplanetllc.com/crt-central/
This last one has numerous companies with multiple locations. Might be something close to where you live.

**mthomasdev** · 12-26-2014, 10:09 AM

Logan,
Is this the thread you couldn't find?

**logansryche** · 12-26-2014, 10:32 AM

yep, it didn't show up in my list for some reason and forgot what i named it.

**logansryche** · 01-20-2015, 06:14 AM

Well I feel stupid.. sent off three emails to NuLife to see if they'd reconsider contract pay because they apparently just opened a new CRT facility in VA and have yet to hear from them so it's safe to say that lead is dead, so everyone that said it was hype or said things about NuLife, you were right and I was wrong. I did however find a video that walks you through how they process their tubes and their electric furnace uses sand to melt the tubes into a string, leaving the lead left over in flakes to be deposited into a bin. I figure there's a better way of processing a CRT then that. The way they do it just feels wrong for some reason.

I am however trying to form some sort of deal or something with Ben Weitsman for E-Scrap recycling as they don't offer it(their yards handle metal only). They just got done building another yard in Oswego and apparently just purchased Roth Steel and plan on building an outlet mall or something there instead. But going back to CRTs, I was watching some videos on a company that created a machine that cuts the tube below the dridge line so what you're left with is usable glass(this also vents whatever vacuum is in the tube). The lead is a giant insert which is removed and then the phosphorus dust is vacuumed up so you're left with additional usable class. I've also been in contact with a guy from Australia who uses a 12v 1000a electric cuter(again below the dridge line) to remove the parts of the tube instead of diamond blades. I'm not sure how either way would fare with the EPA but I'd wager some sort of clean room with filtration would be needed.

-Matt

**Mechanic688** · 01-20-2015, 07:39 AM

The used to be buyer that was south Of Ft Wayne In. started experimenting with a hot cutter wire to slice them in half. The reg. glass went into one rolloff and the leaded part into another on to be recycled by a larger co. Omnisource I suspect but not sure there. The cutter wire was powered by a 12 volt power supply, not sure of the amps tho. Haven't found the link yet.

**logansryche** · 01-20-2015, 07:51 AM

Amperage is probably in the 800-1200 range. Would be something I'd experiment with if I had the space to(have to wait for the snow to melt first). The video I was watching showed the phosphorus dust as a fine white powder.

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