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I just wanted to get a little clarification on something I have been wondering for some time.
I typically strip all the batteries off my boards, but what about the little AL caps? The answer will probably be "ask your buyer", but what is the general consensus on this?
Generally, it's mandatory to remove batteries. I believe this due to one or more of the following. Toxicity, possible undesirable chemical reactions and/or laws on disposal. I have not found a buyer yet who has told me that removing the AL caps will upgrade a board. It would only hurt me in time spent and a little weight loss. The fact that most of these caps weigh very little is most likely why I'm told to leave them on. Their weight does not effect the buyers bottom line either. A scrap yard buyer is liable to tell you anything when it comes to this type of question. Most likely because they don't really know and want to be on the safe side. My opinion, YMMV.
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It's pretty much standard to remove any batteries on the board.
The caps are another matter. My opinion would be to leave them. It's extra time but even more so ..... it's apt to lead to confusion.
Not all sorters know how to read the board. They see something missing because there's a blank space but have absolutely no idea what it is. They get the wrong idea and downgrade it to shred because they think it's been messed with.
After any shipping costs, you might end up taking a net loss of 30 - 55 cents a pound on the boards that were downgraded.
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sry but if there is a buyer out there that has sorters who cant recognize board components let me know so ill be sure not to sell any thing to them.
"anyone who thinks scrappin is easy money ain't doin it right!"
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I couldn't do that od..... even if such a thing were true. I'm oathbound to a certain code of ethics that advises speaking ill of no brother in the trade. It could be the building trade if i'm pounding nails -or- it could be the scrapping trade if that's the trade i happen to be engaged in at the time.
I think i could say this without violating any ethics.
I visited a scrap yard here in Maine that started buying two or three years ago. It's a good company, but their yard workers are trained for steel, aluminum, copper & brass. They might be able to discern the difference between a brown board and a green board but that's as far as their knowledge extends.
Got talking with the buyer there and he encouraged me to sell my e-waste to them. When i explained that i sell some of my boards for 9.00 - 10.00 $ / lb his jaw almost hit the floor. Not only didn't he know ... he didn't even suspect !
That would be a case of a buyer not being able to read the board. He probably doesn't even know what a capacitor is.
All he needs to know is that he buys at one price and sells at another once he's filled the his Gaylord.
If he's happy .... and his customer is happy with what he's paying per pound .... it's not my place to meddle in it.
Last edited by Scrappah; 04-01-2015 at 07:16 PM.
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my apologies : I made a stupid move in assuming you were talking about e scrap buyers not scrap buyers in general.Originally Posted by Scrappah
I know where your coming from now, I have a yard here that is stuck with 16,000 lbs of mixed boards brown and green+ plastic ,tin and every thing else you can imagine. I have been trying to educate him for over 3 years he just keeps getting worse. We started at 1.50 an lb and last offer was .35 I can't even sell that. Guess that fancy college education makes him smarter then me.
Last edited by EcoSafe; 04-01-2015 at 08:14 PM.
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Ohh gawd no ..... not stupid at all.
Near as i can tell there's no rhyme or reason to it. I know fishermen that can neither read nor write that are quite wealthy. I know college educated folks that have no practical skills that are worth tens of millions. They couldn't tell a 2 x 4 from a ten penny nail. ( Complete idiots. )
Bottom line .... you don't have to be educated or even particularly smart to do well in business.
Take the buyer at the scrap yard for instance : ( he's paying just a bit above shred. )
When i stop by there i always have to take a peak inside the Gaylord to see what he's got coming in. When i looked in one time it looked like telecom grade stuff. Lol .... it had me drooling !
The last time i looked in the quality was pretty poor.
Either way it probably doesn't matter. It's a simple thing for him. He buys low and makes a certain profit per pound when he sells a Gaylord.
The scrappers that sell to him don't know. I've seen one guy scrapping his towers with a hammer. Computers are complicated so he just wails on em' for the aluminum heat sinks and whatever might look like copper.
It' all crazy crazy.
Last edited by Scrappah; 04-02-2015 at 05:57 AM.
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Batteries are usually hazards when/if your shipping boards to a buyer, not allowed. Alum. caps should be left on as theirs no value to pulling them. Unless your into the Tant. caps then it's up to you if you want to pull them. Alum caps don't weigh much but it adds a little weight to the boards.
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