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Originally Posted by IamTheGreatest

1. How does one know they got screwed over by a refiner? Unless you're making boards and putting a lb of gold in, how do you know? 2. You'll risk 20k lbs to a refiner.... but you won't send 100 lbs to one of our guys. 3. DO NOT POST YOUR RESULTS HERE. All it does is piss people off. You aren't going to find out here if you got screwed, because we aren't there sorting. We don't know what's in the gaylords. 4. You said yourself you can't grade. Enough said. 5. You keep name dropping Boardsort. Enough said. 6. You claim 20k in a truck. You are "buying" the whole truck. You WILL get 40k in there. Otherwise, waste of time. 7. You haven't read enough. I can name, off hand, 5 people who have done the same thing you have. They aren't here anymore. 8. You sent stuff to Wisconsin. We all know who you sent to. You sent stuff that had no value, to them. I had to type this... I don't respond anymore to most, but I for one want Ewasted to get bigger. There's more money there if he gets 2 steps bigger. And I don't think enough people stick up for him.

Would love to see the results posted.......Last few that did post actually got less than ewasted prices........As far as sticking up for Ewasted probably no need to.......I use him probably as frequently as anyone sending multiple pallets per month (I KNOW I"M SMALL TIME)......I couldn't imagine accumulating 20,000lbs......I have trouble just making room for the little bit I do each month.......I do suggest to anyone on this forum to use Ewasted services as well as a handful of other buyers that are reputable.....Interesting thread that we have visited before so no new info here but I do find it funny how someone stumbles into this biz and within a few months is ready to send 10 Tons to a refiner.......Oh well to each his own and probably should be sent to the Gold Refining Forum for further discussion

Well that escalated quickly...


I'm not doubting anyone's word, heck, I really don't care enough about what anyone else thinks of me & my operation to bother overstating my weights.

It does seem curious, though, to me, that someone could position themselves to gather ten tons of high grade ewaste material if said person doesn't know the basics of board sorting. I'm not trying to say I could tell a $1.25/pound board from a $1.50/pound board, but I think I have a journeyman's feel for the basics. Right now I have what I consider to be a bit of a hoard out in my garage... and it still probably wouldn't trip one ton on a scale. Close, maybe. That's from not taking any green P4 mobos in since and including a (for me) big haul in 2015. I've taken in other mobos, mind you, but green P4s I've been socking away as a leveraged gold investment. I don't need to tell yall it hasn't been my best investment move.

I actively seek out computers and in 2 years I haven't got a tenth of what some unknowledgeable someone has just managed to 'stumble upon' in short order?

How does that even happen?

Not saying you're lying, by any means... I once saw a guy with at least 300# of ram shoveling it into a gaylord at the ferrous yard. I wanted to cry & I wanted to scream... So I know that people can get things WAY outside their experience levels. I just wish I could get ahold of a whale that was outside of MY experience level!!!! I'm not even sure what that would look like.

Originally Posted by Paveitall

i guess you will need to read the post where I was asked to introduce myself. It is a lot of material and I came here looking for answers and I guess it just makes people mad. No worries

Alright, I just wanna say, you need to hop down off the cross there, buddy.

That "mad" you're sensing is just the people who have been on this forum for years, and who have READ THIS FORUM for years rolling their eyes at yet another new visitor asking the same questions that have been covered numerous times in this forum. Then, when said new visitor wasn't not only spoon-fed the answers, but not spoon-fed the answers that he was already convinced that he was going to hear, he got mad.

10 tons is hella weight. It's way more than I'll ever see unless & until I grow way more contacts. But it's likely that the people you're looking at dealing with wouldn't bother to sweep 10 tons off the floor if it fell. They run so much weight 10 tons ain't squat to them. You're a one-off guy who's already said you don't know how to sort boards... if you show up with 10 tons of ""motherboards"" and it turns out you've got everything from actual motherboards down to brown TV boards in your gaylords, then you're gonna be in for a very rude awakening when instead of a big 30% check, the refiner sends you a big 30% BILL for processing your load.

I suggest you back up & read these forums. Learn to sort your boards. Find out exactly what it is you have, and sell it to someone who knows what they are doing and sends ten tons of properly sorted material regularly, to a refiner they've worked with before. THAT is where you'll make the best return on your money until you become the guy that can regularly ship ten tons of properly sorted material directly to a refiner.

Originally Posted by Paveitall

Ok, just got down off the cross, thanks for the suggestion.

Good start... keep it going with the suggestions in the last paragraph and you'll do just fine.

I'm not offended if you are answering my post.......I wish you all the luck in the world.......I hope you make a million dollars in this industry!!!!!!!.....I know nothing about a refiner just what has been posted here.......Normally topics about refining are in the Gold Refining Forum......You will notice that no refiners advertise here to buy material......Look forward to seeing results and pictures of the whole process so I can learn from this forum as I have been for many years now........Either way Ewasted is good option as well as several other buyers (PM me if you want a list of who I would trust).......Shipping is not really expensive and the risk is minimal......Thanks again for being a member and can I suggest become a paid member and support this forum

And just like to add that I was not offended by any of this, I also asked you, Paveitall, to introduce yourself in the proper thread. IMO, when you put your intro here, that could have been taken wrong, like it was. Dealing with refiners usually isn't talked about here, as you can tell, that is usually for GMF.

A lot of this info has been great and it would have been nice for a proper intro, sorry I follow the rules more often than most people, which is probably why I am still a small time e-waste guy. Also, I don't have any silver spoon in my backside.

I'm sure a lot of the members that have chimed in about this thread are probably wondering how your success happen so quickly and from the part of the country that you are in. See the thing that I see a lot on the forum, is the people that have companies have no problem showing that they have a company and everyone can look them up outside of the forum. It's not that anyone is nosey, its just that companies like to look up companies and know what others are doing. So with handling in excess of 10k a month, I would think you would have a full blown company that people can look up. I mean, last year I cleared 35k for the year and that was only because I had a client dish me off a 20k load at one time. But whatever your case is, I would see that people are interested in how you do with a refiner verses a buyer.

I am not intending this in any type of negative way, I only try to speak in a positive word, but like I implied earlier, the good guy finishes last.

Wish you the best of luck with this.

I'm a member of that forum as well.......Never found it very interesting.......I have read thru some of it but was never much into Chemistry or Science......As a matter of fact not very good in Math either so I stick to doing what dumb rednecks do and that is scrap

Originally Posted by alloy2

If you can fry an egg you can refine precious metals.

Well THAT counts me out... every time I try to fry an egg I end up with scrambled. LOL

Originally Posted by alloy2

Had you taken the time to read Hoke's Refining Precious Metals Wastes you would have had a better understanding of the chemistry involved in refining gold, silver, platinum , palladium and rhodium. Ms. Hoke wrote her books in the simplest of layman terms.

If you can fry an egg you can refine precious metals.

All the books located on this link are free to download.

C.M. Hoke's books here for download - Gold Refining Forum.com

Great resource... I wish I could fry an egg.

I'm doing good to boil water at this point

One tip I will give here is if you decide to go to refiner do not mix the load with low grade crap. Unless you want to receive a bill from them after the load is done. Also I answered your PM.