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    New on board sort?

    Any one else notice this recently all their boards now say (no batteries)

    I mean really whats next. Will they want them pre crushed? How about we send them out for an assay first?

    They are starting to get pretty ridiculous on their sorts. What can a small amount of motherboards with tiny batteries really do to their bottom line? I can see an 18 wheeler coming in and them making that justification but it seems ridiculous to push to us small timers.

    Any one else feel like it keeps taking more and more to make a buck these days? Im just glad my e-buyer hasn't adopted these new sorting practices, ( yet at least )


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    The battery issue is one that is coming directly from the refiners these days. Batteries are dangerous and can cause a lot of problems. The sorting issue is sure to trickle down through the entire industry. Most buyers, like Board Sort, are operating on a small margin of profit and as such they have to have the new sorting procedures to continue to make money on the products that they purchase. I agree that it is not easy but this is just one of many changes that have happened in this industry over the past several years.

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    We dont require batteries to removed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewasted View Post
    We dont require batteries to removed
    Exactly why my boards will always come to you, with extra love!

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    maximising profit is a natural progression of any business , even yours, lith batteries are a danger under certain cercomstances, it is more cost efective to have you remove them from 100 lbs of boards then it is for them to have to remove them from a truck load. my guess it is coming down from their processors.

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    you don't have to get mushy dro !! lol

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    My wife adds the extra love. She hugs the box every time i put it in the car cause she knows im coming back home with a fat check.

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    Any one else feel like it keeps taking more and more to make a buck these days? <<

    ever think that is exactly how chris feels and why he made the change?

    might as well get used to it. there are going to be a lot of changes over the next couple of years. some of the states are really getting tough on recycling. it will be nationwide before long.

    that 15 day hold some of the city's are going to will really screw this up for the small seller.

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    The website change might be my fault... :-p

    About a week ago I dropped off a shipment at boardsort in person. Had hoped to use ewasted but they weren't open for delivery during my short window of opportunity, so went with boardsort.

    I showed up with about 400 lbs of mixed boards. He pointed out that the motherboards still had batteries and I appologized, said I didn't know I had to take them out. Chris said not to worry this time. By the next morning the website was updated saying no more batteries, hehe.

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    Since I am new to e-scrapping, how do I know what is considered the battery?? Of course when it comes to the cell phones and stuff ya I know where the battery is, so what about the boards?? Can anyone post some pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by imyourgirl View Post
    Since I am new to e-scrapping, how do I know what is considered the battery?? Of course when it comes to the cell phones and stuff ya I know where the battery is, so what about the boards?? Can anyone post some pics
    Are they talking about the round, silver lithium batteries only or are there other kinds as well?
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    don't worry, iyg, you'll recognize them when you see them...most of them look like a shiny nickle...held in with a little clip...easy to remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post

    IYG here you go,,,

    This is the other sort to look for. Its normally on real old boards, Apple and Mac stuff and Telecom boards.
    I get the impression they are made from a solid slug of Lithium with a thin hole down the centre and a Thionyl chloride paste in it. Smells of sulphur.
    Very long life batterys.

    About the other battery, I unsoldered a bunch of the battery clips and soldered a LED onto it.
    When I get a bettery I put it in the clip until its flat. Theres a bunch of coloured glow worms on my workbench.

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    Those MasterFire batteries are appropriately named!

    A quick tale from the book that we could write from some of the things we have witnessed in the scrap business.

    We had a customer come to the dock with a load of boards, all of which contained these masterfire LiIon batteries. They were attached to the boards with 2 inch exposed wire leads. We told the customer that they will need to remove the batteries before we could buy them.

    A short while later the customer returned with the load of boards and sure enough the batteries were all removed. Soon we learned that he left behind his five gallon bucket full of those now removed batteries in our warehouse.

    How did we find out? Because all of the sudden it sounded like we were under a mortar attack. Hundreds of flaming, exploding LiIon batteries were flying in every direction each with the explosive force of an M-80 firework. The ceilings in our warehouse are easily 40 feet high and there are dozens of burn marks where batteries embedded themselves into the insulation.

    Within seconds 50,000 sq feet of warehouse was engulfed in a toxic white cloud of sulfurous dichloride all the while a few of our employees are being pummeled in their backs by the screaming molten projectiles (yes some actually scream as they discharge their payloads). As it turns out all of the leads on the bucket of batteries were tangled together creating a real disaster in the making.

    It was a frightening scene and a lesson learned. We are now extremely cautious when it comes to batteries, particularly these. They are deadly and I encourage anyone that handles them to pay these little batteries the respect that they require in order to prevent this accident from being repeated.

    Fortunately everyone escaped with only a few minor scrapes and a few superficial burns to the back.
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    Ok, got it. Just making sure. Thanks all!!

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    i accept 'dirty' boards and electronics from my corporate and govt accounts simply because i do not have to pay for them. i no longer accept boards that still have the heat sinks, batteries, retainers, mounting brackets, etc on them when i am paying for them. i have lost a few customers, but my profits are up. everyone has to do what is best for their business. if you are not making enough profit then you need to reassess your business model.

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    Sometimes, the batteries are still good and can be re-used. My used parts buyer has started taking them
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    I have yet to cash in any boards...i talked to a local company about their grading and pay policy, he told me they have high and low grade. I told him ive been pulling aly heatsinks, motors/transformers, and anything with copper on it...he told me i didn't have to, just pull the board and thats it. I know they obviously want to pay as little as possinle, but for motherboards what all needs to be on/removed? Do buyers care if copper is pulled off?

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