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    Well, I finally bought a tow dolly...





    I've been thinking about getting serious about car scrapping, but really couldn't afford a tow truck, and the costs would not be justified by my results so far. Ditto a trailer...at about two grand, a hefty expense after our slow season.

    My compromise was an old beater tow dolly. 400 bucks out the door. Needs new straps which I found at Harbor Freight and I'll shoot it with some rust-oleum as soon as I have a decent day. It ought to be completely paid for with the three cars I'm scrapping over the next couple of days.
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    Kewl!!!
    I'm so into scrapping.. When my Steel Toe Boots Wear out, I cut the Steel out of them and recycle the Toe!

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    Can't use them in MA for junk/scrap cars
    Since the vehicle on the Dolly's touching the ground
    it needs to have a current Registration

    So unless you have a Repair plate to put on the scrap, Not legal >> and the Troopers are only too happy to explain that to you.

    If they are in a good mood, they will allow you to get off at the next exit
    Or if in a town, to park it
    OTHERWISE >> They call the next hook in line to come and get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC4X4 View Post
    Can't use them in MA for junk/scrap cars
    Since the vehicle on the Dolly's touching the ground
    it needs to have a current Registration

    So unless you have a Repair plate to put on the scrap, Not legal >> and the Troopers are only too happy to explain that to you.

    If they are in a good mood, they will allow you to get off at the next exit
    Or if in a town, to park it
    OTHERWISE >> They call the next hook in line to come and get it

    Good to know. Guess I won't be using it in MA. Fortunately I am in MI!

    But God only knows. I got a ticket for scrapping in the city of Detroit. Maybe this is illegal too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    Good to know. Guess I won't be using it in MA. Fortunately I am in MI!

    But God only knows. I got a ticket for scrapping in the city of Detroit. Maybe this is illegal too!
    I've seen tons of guys using them in Michigan. I don't think there is anything that says you can't.

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    I know in Indiana has similar laws.. can't use them here unless you are towing your vehicle because of registration issues as John stated

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    So, hypothetically, if I were to throw some sort of plate on it I shouldn't have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    So, hypothetically, if I were to throw some sort of plate on it I shouldn't have a problem.
    Here in MA, You would still need a current Registration for the vehicle on the dolly
    even if the dolly has a plate
    Because the vehicle is touching the ground

    Couple years ago a guy purchased a car from me on eBay
    Came from New York with a Dolly
    Picked the car up from me and I got a call from him about an hour later
    Seems he made it a mile and a half from me and was about to get on the highway 495
    Was pulled over by the locals for the dolly and no plate on the car BUT had a warrant out for child support to go along with the illegal tow
    They arrested him and towed everything
    He wanted nothing to do with using a Dolly in Ma again, I met him the next day at the tow yard
    he bailed out his truck, Dolly and Car
    I loaded the car and he followed me the 155 miles to the State line on Route 90
    I off loaded the car at the truck stop at the first exit in NY and he put on his Dolly
    Not the way I like to make money, BUT it was a nice payday for me

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    I would plate it and make sure it has lights that work good, even if you just mounted a cheap set of harbor freight magnetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BumpRacerX View Post
    I would plate it and make sure it has lights that work good, even if you just mounted a cheap set of harbor freight magnetics.
    Apparently they don't need to be plated in Michigan. Went to UHaul and none of theirs have plates or working lights, just reflectors. I have magnetic tow lights and have been using them.

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    So four cars now with the tow dolly. In those four cars I have learned:

    1.) Always ask before going if the tires are all inflated and present.
    2.) Always carry a tank to inflate tires, because people lie or don't know that their tires are low.
    3.) Inspect the car for completeness before buying. (One had the cat removed and I discovered it at my shop.)
    4.) Look up values of things. My guys didn't want to remove taillights on the 86 Cougar because it was too old. I said let me check. On eBay completed listings show a minimum of $50 each. Yeah, remove the friggin' taillights!
    5.) Catalytic convertors have a WIDE range of values and I deal with a buyer who explains the differences to me. It pays to have a good relationship with your buyers!
    6.) They are a great place to throw shred items and save yourself trips to the yard!
    7.) I found a buyer who will give me higher value than the scrap yard for aluminum rims.
    8.) Same buyer will also buy the tires!
    9.) Put a winch on the dolly and save your back and your strength.

    I'm sure more will occur to me later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    So four cars now with the tow dolly. In those four cars I have learned:

    1.) Always ask before going if the tires are all inflated and present.
    2.) Always carry a tank to inflate tires, because people lie or don't know that their tires are low.
    3.) Inspect the car for completeness before buying. (One had the cat removed and I discovered it at my shop.)
    4.) Look up values of things. My guys didn't want to remove taillights on the 86 Cougar because it was too old. I said let me check. On eBay completed listings show a minimum of $50 each. Yeah, remove the friggin' taillights!
    5.) Catalytic convertors have a WIDE range of values and I deal with a buyer who explains the differences to me. It pays to have a good relationship with your buyers!
    6.) They are a great place to throw shred items and save yourself trips to the yard!
    7.) I found a buyer who will give me higher value than the scrap yard for aluminum rims.
    8.) Same buyer will also buy the tires!
    9.) Put a winch on the dolly and save your back and your strength.

    I'm sure more will occur to me later!
    Good advice. I'll add, I always carry a 12v air compressor as well, just in case the air tank isn't quite enough. I've also learned to carry a jack and a 4-way wheel wrench, just in case you have to swap rims around.

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    Speaking of trailers/dolly etc. I figured the laws would be pretty easy to find online, I have spent the last hour scouring Google looking for laws in my state in regards to trailer requirements, sparce information out there. Does anyone have a definitive site that actually has each states trailer laws and requirements? I run a 16ft Car Hauler, I have my rig as legal as I am aware of it to be (i.e. Breakaway, all lights re-wired and functional, brakes on all 4 wheels of the trailer, safety chains are now long enough to do criss-cross etc) but even on my state BMV website I have not found any listing as to the legality of what REQUIREMENTS are. Anyone have a good source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge42 View Post
    Speaking of trailers/dolly etc. I figured the laws would be pretty easy to find online, I have spent the last hour scouring Google looking for laws in my state in regards to trailer requirements, sparce information out there. Does anyone have a definitive site that actually has each states trailer laws and requirements? I run a 16ft Car Hauler, I have my rig as legal as I am aware of it to be (i.e. Breakaway, all lights re-wired and functional, brakes on all 4 wheels of the trailer, safety chains are now long enough to do criss-cross etc) but even on my state BMV website I have not found any listing as to the legality of what REQUIREMENTS are. Anyone have a good source?
    Maybe look into commercial safety requirements...

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    Here in ar you could tag that as a homemade trailer.

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    I think what I found deals more in CDL and tractor trailer requirements. I'm hauling a car hauler with a Silverado so I'm still stumped on the trailer requirements. I'm a huge rule follower- hard to know if my trailer meets all specs if even the state BMV site doesn't tell you what you need to know. Hate to ever get stopped and "find out" then!! Ya know what I mean?

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    Yes, I know what you mean. I think if you're worried about it, you should follow commercial requirements. I don't know if you have a licensed business or not, but you're hauling as a business would. Maybe a local tow yard would have some advice.

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    Here in Kansas, if two tires touch the ground it has to have a current registration but Ive used a tow bar amany of times without getting hassled. How wide is that dolly burly ? I've often considered a car dolly but many of them are too narrow for a full size pickup. Would be a cheap alternative to a car trailer.
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    Here in NC, lest on my sandbar..they don't sweat you to much for it. Seeing as I had to have my mechanic tow me the other day, an he used a dolly similar to yours Burly. Both of the rear wheels of my vehicle were touching the ground.

    It started my vacation early, work will be done while I'm gone. Heh.

    Tater, you could always try the GoJack wheel dollies, the impound guys use..lol. Slide them suckers under the rear wheels, front on a wheel lift/dolly. This is what the tow guys use up in Va, where I have family work. Mainly for impounds and the like. Then again..I've seen some of them roads in KS you guys have, heh. So might not be the best option for you after all.

    Sirscrapalot - Wheels on the dolly go round and round..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot View Post
    Both of the rear wheels of my vehicle were touching the ground.
    If it is your daily driver and was registered
    Then it would not be a problem

    It all my years, I have never picked up a junk car that was still registered

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