Results 1 to 20 of 53

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    URBANERECYCLING's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Tampa
    Posts
    160
    Thanks
    131
    Thanked 261 Times in 88 Posts
    You nailed it on the head Gangel.... I have a business philosophy that would very much go against what Old Dude and a few others believe in terms of posting prices. I will never post my price list and that is why I do not offer my services in the buyers section. I like to personalise my relationship with each of my customers and I believe that most of them will back me up in the statement that I do that and try to look out for them as best as possible outside a pricelist... This being said I do realise that places such as EWASTED are much bigger and has adapted a business plan that not only helps him achieve his sucess but benefits the majority of the sellers on here. My prices are strong and my service is good but it isnt for everybody.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    Everybody wants more buyers. But I can see how some people don't want to deal with the sellers out here. Scrimping and saving for nickel. I actually look at prices second. I would take a 25 percent hit just to have easy access some good service. But that's just me.



  2. The Following 3 Users say Thank You for This Post by URBANERECYCLING:


  3. #2
    EcoSafe's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    May 2011
    Posts
    3,703
    Thanks
    3,699
    Thanked 6,779 Times in 1,949 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by URBANERECYCLING View Post
    You nailed it on the head Gangel.... I have a business philosophy that would very much go against what Old Dude and a few others believe in terms of posting prices. I will never post my price list and that is why I do not offer my services in the buyers section. I like to personalise my relationship with each of my customers and I believe that most of them will back me up in the statement that I do that and try to look out for them as best as possible outside a pricelist... This being said I do realise that places such as EWASTED are much bigger and has adapted a business plan that not only helps him achieve his sucess but benefits the majority of the sellers on here. My prices are strong and my service is good but it isnt for everybody.
    to each his own
    its your business you run it your way. I, in turn, will run mine my way,.

    I'm just a small independent scrapper t6rying to make a living. I don,t have time to call those who don,t post prices and negotiate over a few cents a lb. so i,m apparently too small for your business any way so it is a moot point.

    no offense but your post sounded a little arrogant considering there are many sss ( survival, supplemental, scrappers) out there. I clearly stated twice in that post ,it was just my choice and my opinion,
    Last edited by EcoSafe; 03-12-2013 at 03:20 PM.
    "anyone who thinks scrappin is easy money ain't doin it right!"

  4. The Following 6 Users say Thank You for This Post by EcoSafe:


  5. #3
    NewbyScrapper's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    263
    Thanks
    1,475
    Thanked 175 Times in 101 Posts
    What I find rather odd, is that some buyers, WILL post prices, which is nice, yet they omit to give a FULL shipping address. A zip code on its own, is of no use if one wants to calculate shipping using UPS and probably other shipping companys also.

    So, either a PM (box usually full or e-mail just to get simple details of where to ship stuff to.

    end of rant

  6. #4
    URBANERECYCLING's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Tampa
    Posts
    160
    Thanks
    131
    Thanked 261 Times in 88 Posts
    You must always comment on things dont you . Just because you are OLD DUDE doesnt mean you have some great advice to dole out to members on here..I prefer to help out people one on one instead of trying to rack up thanks on here with statements that actually say nothing
    1.Yes it is my business and its run quite well thank you
    2.You dont have time to call someone? Try not making snarky comments on here once a day and youll have more time to use the phone
    3. No offense? Of course offense was meant or you wouldnt of said it
    4. None of my customers are to small...Quality of material and relationship is more important
    5. Have a good Night
    Quote Originally Posted by olddude View Post
    to each his own
    its your business you run it your way. I, in turn, will run mine my way,.

    I'm just a small independent scrapper t6rying to make a living. I don,t have time to call those who don,t post prices and negotiate over a few cents a lb. so i,m apparently too small for your business any way so it is a moot point.

    no offense but your post sounded a little arrogant considering there are many sss ( survival, supplemental, scrappers) out there. I clearly stated twice in that post ,it was just my choice and my opinion,

  7. #5
    NobleMetalWorks's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Sep 2012
    Location
    East Bay California
    Posts
    687
    Thanks
    301
    Thanked 1,941 Times in 527 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by URBANERECYCLING View Post
    You must always comment on things dont you . Just because you are OLD DUDE doesnt mean you have some great advice to dole out to members on here..I prefer to help out people one on one instead of trying to rack up thanks on here with statements that actually say nothing
    I prefer to be more direct, and for people to deal with me more directly. There is something to be said for a person who is willing to lay exactly what they think right on the line.

    From what I can tell, a person knows exactly where they stand with olddude. He seems to be straightforward and honest. Regardless if I agree with him or not on any given subject, I can respect a man like that.

    And so far as the thanks thing is concerned, I would like to think people thank because they find a post informative or useful in some way, or at the very least they are showing their support for another person's view. Obviously olddude has a lot of people who agree with him and have thanked him. I don't really think the thanks someone has accumulated is an issue, I'm not sure why you brought that up. It kind of seems like the same situation when a woman cheats on her husband with another man that didn't realize she was married and the husband goes after the other man, instead of divorcing the woman.

    My personal opinion is that your comment about olddudes thanks was over the top.

    Scott
    At the heart of science is an essential balance between two seemingly contradictory attitudes--an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive they may be, and the most ruthless skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new. This is how deep truths are winnowed from deep nonsense. -- Carl Sagan

  8. The Following 5 Users say Thank You for This Post by NobleMetalWorks:


  9. #6
    Phantoms001 is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    Phantoms001's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    556
    Thanks
    165
    Thanked 525 Times in 242 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by URBANERECYCLING View Post
    You must always comment on things dont you . Just because you are OLD DUDE doesnt mean you have some great advice to dole out to members on here..I prefer to help out people one on one instead of trying to rack up thanks on here with statements that actually say nothing
    1.Yes it is my business and its run quite well thank you
    2.You dont have time to call someone? Try not making snarky comments on here once a day and youll have more time to use the phone
    3. No offense? Of course offense was meant or you wouldnt of said it
    4. None of my customers are to small...Quality of material and relationship is more important
    5. Have a good Night
    It must be beat up on OldDude day. Everyone pile on..............

  10. #7
    grouchyolddude's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    Nov 2012
    Location
    CO
    Posts
    209
    Thanks
    786
    Thanked 183 Times in 91 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoms001 View Post
    It must be beat up on OldDude day. Everyone pile on..............
    well I'm not much for "piling on".... but if ya'll wanna run him by over here when you're all done. I might take a swat at 'im.. might be a pretty even match... lol
    "Some people try to turn back their odometers. Not me, I want people to know WHY I look this way. I've traveled a long way, and all of those roads weren't paved"-Will Rogers

  11. #8
    Phantoms001 is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    Phantoms001's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor



    Member since
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    556
    Thanks
    165
    Thanked 525 Times in 242 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by URBANERECYCLING View Post
    My prices are strong and my service is good but it isnt for everybody.
    I agree with olddude. No matter what the commodity, I would be be a skeptic of any business deal where someone was playing "I have a secret" and going in not knowing what the prices are. The only reason I can think of not to post prices is if you are offering considerably less than everyone else is, or have some other sinister motive.

    If your prices are strong and service is good, why wouldn't it be for everybody???? Again, that makes no sense at all. Maybe it's just me, but there are 3 things I look for in a buyer.

    1. Price

    2. Service

    3. Location

    These are not in any certain order, but each plays a large part of my decision. I certainly would take LESS money to use a buyer that has good service and is closer (it costs money to ship). I would also take LESS money if I was in a position that I didn't have to ship the material and could just drop it off and get paid something reasonable (locally I get 2.50 for green MBs and telecom, it goes down from there).

    Maybe a seller that doesn't post prices can list a reason why so we don't have to speculate, but for me the first thing that comes to mind is it is easier to take advantage of less educated/experienced sellers.

  12. The Following 9 Users say Thank You for This Post by Phantoms001:


  13. #9
    NobleMetalWorks's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor

    Member since
    Sep 2012
    Location
    East Bay California
    Posts
    687
    Thanks
    301
    Thanked 1,941 Times in 527 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoms001 View Post
    Maybe a seller that doesn't post prices can list a reason why so we don't have to speculate, but for me the first thing that comes to mind is it is easier to take advantage of less educated/experienced sellers.
    I gave a reason why I don't currently have prices posted above:

    Quote Originally Posted by NobleMetalWorks View Post
    I am currently in a situation where I am not purchasing scrap unless it falls under certain conditions because I am growing my business and doing work that must be done before I can process in my new location.
    Everyone who doesn't post prices has some reason why they are not doing so, we just don't know what that reason is unless they say so. Some people might think that their reasons are more personal, or that it's their business, and might not feel that it's anyone's business. Or it might be something embarrassing or harmful to their business. But I think if someone has put themselves out there as a buyer, that they should also state clearly that they are not buying at this time, or are.

    There is this BBQ place not far from where I live. When they have BBQ available, they have flags they fly so people know and won't wait in line for 30 min for no reason. When they are out of whatever, they lower that flag. Perhaps we can have badges with flags we can change so it's easier for sellers to see who is currently buying instead of having to go through each persons profile.

    Also as I suggest above, it might be a good idea for sellers to post what they are selling, so buyers also have the option to shop sellers.

    You know now that I think about it, I think if sellers expect buyers to post prices, that they should also in turn be willing to post their prices they are willing to sell for, tit for tat. Why is all the burden on the buyer and not equally shared between buyer and seller?

    If you want a specific price, then post the price you want to sell your material for.

    Scott
    Last edited by NobleMetalWorks; 03-12-2013 at 04:23 PM.

  14. The Following 2 Users say Thank You for This Post by NobleMetalWorks:


  15. #10
    SuperDave is offline Metal Recycling Entrepreneur
    SuperDave's Avatar
    SMF Badges of Honor


    Member since
    May 2012
    Location
    Usa
    Posts
    448
    Thanks
    526
    Thanked 278 Times in 170 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by NobleMetalWorks View Post
    If you want a specific price, then post the price you want to sell your material for.
    Scott
    Ok here is my price, although not specific
    TOP DOLLAR FOR MY HARD WORK
    plain and simple

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

 
Browse the Most Recent Threads
On SMF In THIS CATEGORY.





OR

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

The Scrap Metal Forum

    The Scrap Metal Forum is the #1 scrap metal recycling community in the world. Here we talk about the scrap metal business, making money, where we connect with other scrappers, scrap yards and more.

SMF on Facebook and Twitter

Twitter Facebook