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    This could help even the old timers

    So i was talking to a newbie scrapper in my area,he was telling me that this yard was paying him more than any yard around so i got into the finner detais,today he got 240.00 a ton for tin/shread.The funny thing he sold a little over two tons,I sold some tin/shread today for 230.00 a ton i sold 8 plus tons,so right away i got pissed,how could this new commer get more than me when he was selling a lot less weight?I work with this yard a lot and with out going into the amount of material it is substantial,something did not smell right with me so i asked him to see his ticket,and just like i thought the yard out smarted him.with out insulting him i asked him if knew there are different ways used to measure a ton,he said what am i talking about a ton is a ton.Well i showed him on his ticket they weighed his material in a METRic Ton there is a M in front of the word ton.I showed him my ticket there was a N in front of the word ton The N stands for Net ton.the difffernce being a net ton is 2000 lbs a metric tone is 2240 lbs,that means they are getting about 11% more there way buying it under the Metric system,Check your tickets Don't let them out smart you.

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    Otherwise known as a Short Ton and a Long Ton.
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    yes but idon't think they put long or short ton on invoice.

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    Some yards use net and gross ton.
    Noun 1. gross ton - a British unit of weight equivalent to 2240 pounds gross ton - a British unit of weight equivalent to 2240 pounds
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    So that yard should be put in the same class as a common thief. I wonder how many other people they rip off on a daily basis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by parrothead View Post
    My shred tickets just come out by the pound.
    and if you were in jolly o' England, you could get paid with pounds!!
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    Well the best way is to how you are getting paid and make sure you understand the math

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1956 View Post
    So i was talking to a newbie scrapper in my area,he was telling me that this yard was paying him more than any yard around so i got into the finner detais,today he got 240.00 a ton for tin/shread.The funny thing he sold a little over two tons,I sold some tin/shread today for 230.00 a ton i sold 8 plus tons,so right away i got pissed,how could this new commer get more than me when he was selling a lot less weight?I work with this yard a lot and with out going into the amount of material it is substantial,something did not smell right with me so i asked him to see his ticket,and just like i thought the yard out smarted him.with out insulting him i asked him if knew there are different ways used to measure a ton,he said what am i talking about a ton is a ton.Well i showed him on his ticket they weighed his material in a METRic Ton there is a M in front of the word ton.I showed him my ticket there was a N in front of the word ton The N stands for Net ton.the difffernce being a net ton is 2000 lbs a metric tone is 2240 lbs,that means they are getting about 11% more there way buying it under the Metric system,Check your tickets Don't let them out smart you.
    I understand your feelings, however, that said, it's a free market, not a fair market, just be dam* glad your getttng $230 a ton. we are getting $160 .$180 here. just sayin.
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    I have seen a map of the country broke into zones for scrap metal prices,the south east zone alway,s pay,s high prices I don,t know why it's just the way it is.

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    I thought all yards measured in metric ton. Just like all gold is measured by a troy ounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY View Post
    I thought all yards measured in metric ton. Just like all gold is measured by a troy ounce.
    Mine pays by the net ton.

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    Well in this country a ton is 2000 lbs like you know we are selling our product here not abroad, when you sell abroad they get the exchange rate on the money unless they state U.S Dollar I believe the yards that pay by the metric ton are thief,s

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1956 View Post
    Well in this country a ton is 2000 lbs like you know we are selling our product here not abroad, when you sell abroad they get the exchange rate on the money unless they state U.S Dollar I believe the yards that pay by the metric ton are thief,s
    I know, but sell gold here it is troy ounce. Call Sims or, Iskiwitz, or Lazro Brothers in TN and ask them what ton they are quoting and all will tell you metric. I have never had a yard here pay by the net ton.
    I did not realize that any yard did. I believe you guys just was not aware of it.

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    Net ton here. When talking precious metal troy ounces is recognized around the world and is the standard used in the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER View Post
    So that yard should be put in the same class as a common thief. I wonder how many other people they rip off on a daily basis?
    I wouldn't call them thieves, it said metric ton right on the reciet. It's not thiere fault if the guy didn't read the reciet.

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    Net pounds here.

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    So doing the math he got $240 a M ton so $240 / 2240 = .107
    and you got $230 a net ton so $230 / 2000 = .115
    Difference of .008 per pound.

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    1956 i send you a PM.

    Just to get it ,i check the Net,


    Metric ton is 1000 kg ( 2,204.623 lb)



    Long ton 1,016.047 Kg (2,240 lb )


    Here is the link Ton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    I hope it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY View Post
    I know, but sell gold here it is troy ounce. Call Sims or, Iskiwitz, or Lazro Brothers in TN and ask them what ton they are quoting and all will tell you metric. I have never had a yard here pay by the net ton.
    I did not realize that any yard did. I believe you guys just was not aware of it.
    Thats why I goto Worleys, Midtown, or Rivercity. Rivercity paying the most.

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