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Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY

I know, but sell gold here it is troy ounce. Call Sims or, Iskiwitz, or Lazro Brothers in TN and ask them what ton they are quoting and all will tell you metric. I have never had a yard here pay by the net ton.
I did not realize that any yard did. I believe you guys just was not aware of it.

Thats why I goto Worleys, Midtown, or Rivercity. Rivercity paying the most.

Brasscatcher,hit it right on the head,misleading people, how many of us on this forum that buy there scrap pay by the metric system?its just a another method of taking advantage of most people,the least that they could do is post the differences if they were not trying to mislead.

Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER

Net ton here. When talking precious metal troy ounces is recognized around the world and is the standard used in the industry.

I read about the Manhatten project years ago & I always remember this quote.
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Y-12 is the World War II code name for the electromagnetic isotope separation plant producing enriched uranium at the Clinton Engineer Works in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, as part of the Manhattan Project.
Construction began in February 1943 under the management of Stone and Webster.
Because of a wartime shortage of copper, the massive electromagnetic coils were made with 14,700 tons of coinage silver from U.S. government vaults at West Point.[1][2]
Colonel Kenneth D. Nichols met with the Under Secretary of the Treasury, Daniel W. Bell, and requested between five and ten thousand tons of silver.

Bell's stunned reply was "Colonel, in the Treasury we do not speak of tons of silver; our unit is the troy ounce."

Thus the Manhattan Engineer District requested and was loaned 395 million troy ounces of silver (13,540 short tons, 12,300 tonnes) from the West Point Depository for the duration of the Manhattan Project. Special guards and accountants were assigned to the silver, and their responsible caretaking meant that at the end of the war, less than 0.0036% out of more than $300 million worth of silver was lost to the process, with the remainder returned to the Treasury.

Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY

I know, but sell gold here it is troy ounce. Call Sims or, Iskiwitz, or Lazro Brothers in TN and ask them what ton they are quoting and all will tell you metric. I have never had a yard here pay by the net ton.
I did not realize that any yard did. I believe you guys just was not aware of it.

Sims here in Tulsa pays by Net Ton

Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER

Ok maybe not a thief, but you have to admit it is misleading. We are not on the metric system in this country and most do not know the conversions, so then I have to believe that yard knows they are getting over on most people.

Of course they do. At my yard you have to specifically ASK for bare bright, they claim it is insider information. Also you have to ASK for a bump if you bring in large quantities. Example, aluminum cans are 60 cents but if you bring in over 50lbs they will pay you 65 cents, but only if you request it. Nowhere is there anything posted about these so called policies. I have also stated before that some guys pay me more than others on some items. I had a guy tell me last saturday, Thanks for organizing all of this for us, i really appreciate it. Then when i got my ticket he whispered that he gave me a bump in pricing. I think its low, and i think its bad business.

Old saying goes like this "never assume anything" in business. Just break the word "assume" into its basic parts and you'll understand why. When you "ass-u-me" something it can makes an A$$ out of U and ME.

By the way, my yards pay in Net Ton.

Gah I need a new yard. Twenty a net ton for tin here. That translates to a penny a pound my friends. I wish I could find a yard with those kinds of prices that wasn't a few hours away

We used to have a uhaul place idk if they left town or relocated or what there's a sign that says "no uhaul" out by the road lol I'm gonna find out what's up thanks for the tip all I got now is a truck with a twelve foot trailer I've fit about 3000 on it before though

All the yards I deal with have the price on the board listed by ton (2000 lbs) and listed out on invoice by pounds. I have never seen it otherwise.

That's a great tip for new guys to the game. Thanks for posting that. I'm a little smarter now thanks to you. Lol