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    This could help even the old timers

    So i was talking to a newbie scrapper in my area,he was telling me that this yard was paying him more than any yard around so i got into the finner detais,today he got 240.00 a ton for tin/shread.The funny thing he sold a little over two tons,I sold some tin/shread today for 230.00 a ton i sold 8 plus tons,so right away i got pissed,how could this new commer get more than me when he was selling a lot less weight?I work with this yard a lot and with out going into the amount of material it is substantial,something did not smell right with me so i asked him to see his ticket,and just like i thought the yard out smarted him.with out insulting him i asked him if knew there are different ways used to measure a ton,he said what am i talking about a ton is a ton.Well i showed him on his ticket they weighed his material in a METRic Ton there is a M in front of the word ton.I showed him my ticket there was a N in front of the word ton The N stands for Net ton.the difffernce being a net ton is 2000 lbs a metric tone is 2240 lbs,that means they are getting about 11% more there way buying it under the Metric system,Check your tickets Don't let them out smart you.

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    yes but idon't think they put long or short ton on invoice.

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    Some yards use net and gross ton.
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    So that yard should be put in the same class as a common thief. I wonder how many other people they rip off on a daily basis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER View Post
    So that yard should be put in the same class as a common thief. I wonder how many other people they rip off on a daily basis?
    I wouldn't call them thieves, it said metric ton right on the reciet. It's not thiere fault if the guy didn't read the reciet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyscraper View Post
    I wouldn't call them thieves, it said metric ton right on the reciet. It's not thiere fault if the guy didn't read the reciet.
    Ok maybe not a thief, but you have to admit it is misleading. We are not on the metric system in this country and most do not know the conversions, so then I have to believe that yard knows they are getting over on most people.

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    Brasscatcher,hit it right on the head,misleading people, how many of us on this forum that buy there scrap pay by the metric system?its just a another method of taking advantage of most people,the least that they could do is post the differences if they were not trying to mislead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRASSCATCHER View Post
    Ok maybe not a thief, but you have to admit it is misleading. We are not on the metric system in this country and most do not know the conversions, so then I have to believe that yard knows they are getting over on most people.
    Of course they do. At my yard you have to specifically ASK for bare bright, they claim it is insider information. Also you have to ASK for a bump if you bring in large quantities. Example, aluminum cans are 60 cents but if you bring in over 50lbs they will pay you 65 cents, but only if you request it. Nowhere is there anything posted about these so called policies. I have also stated before that some guys pay me more than others on some items. I had a guy tell me last saturday, Thanks for organizing all of this for us, i really appreciate it. Then when i got my ticket he whispered that he gave me a bump in pricing. I think its low, and i think its bad business.

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    Old saying goes like this "never assume anything" in business. Just break the word "assume" into its basic parts and you'll understand why. When you "ass-u-me" something it can makes an A$$ out of U and ME.

    By the way, my yards pay in Net Ton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parrothead View Post
    My shred tickets just come out by the pound.
    and if you were in jolly o' England, you could get paid with pounds!!
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    Well the best way is to how you are getting paid and make sure you understand the math

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1956 View Post
    So i was talking to a newbie scrapper in my area,he was telling me that this yard was paying him more than any yard around so i got into the finner detais,today he got 240.00 a ton for tin/shread.The funny thing he sold a little over two tons,I sold some tin/shread today for 230.00 a ton i sold 8 plus tons,so right away i got pissed,how could this new commer get more than me when he was selling a lot less weight?I work with this yard a lot and with out going into the amount of material it is substantial,something did not smell right with me so i asked him to see his ticket,and just like i thought the yard out smarted him.with out insulting him i asked him if knew there are different ways used to measure a ton,he said what am i talking about a ton is a ton.Well i showed him on his ticket they weighed his material in a METRic Ton there is a M in front of the word ton.I showed him my ticket there was a N in front of the word ton The N stands for Net ton.the difffernce being a net ton is 2000 lbs a metric tone is 2240 lbs,that means they are getting about 11% more there way buying it under the Metric system,Check your tickets Don't let them out smart you.
    I understand your feelings, however, that said, it's a free market, not a fair market, just be dam* glad your getttng $230 a ton. we are getting $160 .$180 here. just sayin.
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    I have seen a map of the country broke into zones for scrap metal prices,the south east zone alway,s pay,s high prices I don,t know why it's just the way it is.

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    I thought all yards measured in metric ton. Just like all gold is measured by a troy ounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY View Post
    I thought all yards measured in metric ton. Just like all gold is measured by a troy ounce.
    Mine pays by the net ton.

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    Well in this country a ton is 2000 lbs like you know we are selling our product here not abroad, when you sell abroad they get the exchange rate on the money unless they state U.S Dollar I believe the yards that pay by the metric ton are thief,s

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1956 View Post
    Well in this country a ton is 2000 lbs like you know we are selling our product here not abroad, when you sell abroad they get the exchange rate on the money unless they state U.S Dollar I believe the yards that pay by the metric ton are thief,s
    I know, but sell gold here it is troy ounce. Call Sims or, Iskiwitz, or Lazro Brothers in TN and ask them what ton they are quoting and all will tell you metric. I have never had a yard here pay by the net ton.
    I did not realize that any yard did. I believe you guys just was not aware of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERYOLDGUY View Post
    I know, but sell gold here it is troy ounce. Call Sims or, Iskiwitz, or Lazro Brothers in TN and ask them what ton they are quoting and all will tell you metric. I have never had a yard here pay by the net ton.
    I did not realize that any yard did. I believe you guys just was not aware of it.
    Thats why I goto Worleys, Midtown, or Rivercity. Rivercity paying the most.

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