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    Annual potential

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    I'm new to scrapping but I enjoy it. I am very curious to hear some annual earnings for people doing this as a full time job. I know it can vary widely depending on how you are running your operation but I would love some input on actual earnings.

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    I would say that the figures vary from a couple of thousand for the part time "hobbyist" to millions for a big time scrap dealer yard owner..........Pretty vague question

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    Fair enough. What I am looking for is a guy with a truck or two and a couple trailers that collects full time (40+ hours a week) Not necessarily a yard owner and not the hobbyist.

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    Thank you for your service to this country. To answer this question is difficult because many variables affect the answer. No profit was seen in the first year because all sales went to paying for tools and equipment. Second year same answer.

    Some on here set goals to buy a used truck and trailer to expand their scrapping. Some just do it for recreational money and vacations. Some do it for survival.

    To give you an idea of potential, one scrapper was so successful that when his sons graduated from high school, he bought each of them a semi, trailer, and a skid loader with attachments and each is working full time supporting their families in the ultimate lifestyle.

    Without knowing what type of scrapping you are pursuing and your location, it is impossible to give you an answer. If you want an idea of potential, I am a retired public school administrator and make as much as I did as a principal. To put a number on it Google administrative salaries in the Dakota's.

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    I just checked my Quickbooks record. I was and am small-time with one truck and trailer. I was always part time - at most about half-time. I started after I retired at 54. It took me about nine months to get out of the red. I've consistently made about $5-6000/yr. BUT - although I was part time, I was available to respond to calls 24 hours a day. In other words, my part-time job required full time commitment. Don't expect to do this evenings and weekends. When people call, you need to respond. Otherwise, they go on to the next one. Also, having businesses on your "route" will generally require week day contact/pick up. I didn't even go to most businesses on weekends. Explaining what I'm doing to the Sheriff wasn't on the agenda.
    People may laugh at me, but that's ok. I laugh all the way to the bank.

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    I don't use a truck, or a trailer. I'm a one man show with a mini-van. I only fit one of your requirements.

    I do well enough to afford the rent on my house on my sandbar.( I pay rent, wife pays utilities...she got the better deal) Have plenty left over for maintenance, tools, other overhead. Some still left to sock away for the annual visit to the Mouse in Fl.

    An yes, I do it full time. I'm in a far smaller market then you, an a lot of others. YMMV.


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    I understand that this will consume a lot of time. I expect it to. The reason I am looking for some input is that I am considering turning down a business opportunity that will generate about 350,000 annual gross income to do this full time. I want see how some of you are doing to help with my decision making process. I know how to run a business I am just looking for a general market analysis.

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    Stress should be a consideration also. 350,000 a lot of coin.

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    I think I'd go with the $350k business opportunity. Might not be as fun as scrapping is, but that's a helluva lot of money. I understand the 350 is gross, how many partners? Startup costs, etc. ? I assume you would be incorporating, or forming some partnership or something. What would your annual salary be?
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    It will be set up as an LLC. No partners. My start up cost is around $100,000. I will have 2 full time employees. Annual overhead including my salary is around $200000. I have a few ideas that I think could grow this to the same or better. Below is one of my ideas. I live in a huge maritime community and I see half sank ships or large boat a lot. The insurance companies have already paid the owner for the damage and the vessel itself. If I were to offer a small amount or percentage I think I could easily aquire these ships. I am working on the logistics of how to raise, dismantle and transport the materials but I think it could be very prosperous.

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    My latest challenge has introduced me to several individuals that make that or more in a year. Each of these individuals found a niche in the market. I am going to venture a guess that the majority of full time scrappers on here do it because of the lifestyle and independence, not the money.

    The real question is not how much money can be made, but are you willing to bet on yourself. Some realtors make $ 20,000 a year and others make millions. Some scrappers are getting $ 135 a gross ton right now and others are getting $ 250 a net ton. Some scrappers have to travel 60 miles to a scrap yard and others have to go across the street.

    My recommendation is to set some goals and create a business plan. Then ask the forum if your goals are realistic and what is the best way to achieve them. Example, is it possible to cut five tons of prepared iron in a day? Yes if you have the right type of metal in one area. Is it possible to break down 25 computers a day? Yes, based on my limited research it is possible, but finding 25 computers would be the challenge. Then apply the answers to your business plan to see if it will work for you.

    Good luck with your decision. Mine was easy, what type of lifestyle did I want to enjoy. The money was immaterial.

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    Ahrrr, might be gold in them thar ships! So you would be scrapping ships? Sounds like fun. Btw I gross around $40k scrapping. One truck, one trailer, lots of expenses. Mostly repairs on f350.

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    Sorry, while the above was typed two posts were added.

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    It sounds like you already have a business plan and have thought things through. This is a no brainer for me, but then again I love challenges.

    Please keep us posted on your progress. I have a similar scrapping opportunity and would love to borrow some of your ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeachMetal View Post
    I understand that this will consume a lot of time. I expect it to. The reason I am looking for some input is that I am considering turning down a business opportunity that will generate about 350,000 annual gross income to do this full time. I want see how some of you are doing to help with my decision making process. I know how to run a business I am just looking for a general market analysis.
    This business is like any other,you get out of it what you put into it. I own a painting business and for the most part it's seasonal, with the scrap I can pretty much control the work and income. It takes time and commitment to get to this point. Personally I would rather scrap full time, but that would mean putting people that have worked for me in painting out of a job. As business man I see the potential in the scrap metal business as unlimited. To ask what a person makes for a living is just inappropriate. Do some research and make up your own mind if scrapping is the right fit for you. That way if you fail or succeed its all on you. Good luck wwhatever you decide.

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    There are many variable to the question. Scrap these days is easily available with all the right resources (internet auctions, business connections) where you make the money is with the knowledge of what to do with it. My biggest expenses are warehouse space and gas. It is very possible to make $50k and up if you create good contacts, know what and where to sell reusable items, and dedicate yourself to it.

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    Why not start scrapping part-time.. while keeping your bread and butter job? Establish contacts, get your name out there.. if the hard work, effort, availability of scrap in your geographic area and income fall correctly.. at some point you will come to understand that either you can eat and pay a mortgage with this gig.. or you can't. If you end up doing so much that the regular day gig is getting in the way of scrapping opportunities.. you MAY have your answer.

    Remember to think long term. I've had a lot of scrapping opportunities on my plate as of late.. while running my contracting business as well- I have to "get to" scrap when I can in some cases (my wife's family wanted a 1980's satellite dish removed) I can't give up my billable time for approximately $50 in scrap, gas etc. I billed my day and did it at night.

    I personally know that I don't have the desire to do this as a full time job. I work for myself.. but I mud walls and paint and do all other things.. scrapping also gives me freedom and a little bit of pocket money.. but it is a balance. Is it worth giving up billable time to go snatch say a car- usually it is.. but I also have to be sure I'm not wizzing off my client who is counting on me to get a job done.. to chase scrap. I've been doing this for long enough to know what MY balance is.. yours will be different.. as with everyone.
    I'm so into scrapping.. When my Steel Toe Boots Wear out, I cut the Steel out of them and recycle the Toe!

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