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    She wanted a job

    Her interview was set for 11:00 am on Friday.
    She called me at 3:00 and laughingly said that she forgot to write down the appointment and it had slipped her mind.
    I think she was surprised when I told her that she no longer qualified for the job.

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    Was she younger & inexperienced spin ?

    Just wondering because a lot of the new hires where my wife is employed were never taught how to work. Some don't quite seem to get the concept. If a work shift conflicts with something else they would rather be doing they don't show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinroch View Post
    her interview was set for 11:00 am on friday.
    She called me at 3:00 and laughingly said that she forgot to write down the appointment and it had slipped her mind.
    I think she was surprised when i told her that she no longer qualified for the job.
    very funny!!!!

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    I think she was 29.
    I only gave her the chance because my lead person recommended her.
    I'm back to my preference of not hiring anyone under 60

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    HEY! (Yea I yelled, but it's ok)

    Yanno, not everyone of my generation are total sh*tballs. I admit we have quite a few but myself as an example...people think I work way too much and focus too much when I am working. Most of the guys I grew up with are the same way. You handled it right, they don't show, it's a no go. BUT I hope you were joking about the latter statement. You will always be missing out on the best and most dedicated. Frankly, adults prior to my generation made a big stink out of the 36 hour work week which became a 40 hour week. Now...if your my generation likely your entire adult life you've never worked less than 50 hours a week and better than half of us have two jobs as it is...life is hard, we are harder. Remember that. I certainly am a little heated about the comment and I can admit that, but then I don't appreciate a fell swoop right off of the hardest working generation in america, statistically speaking we work longer hours and at harder jobs to a lower standard of living than in the living memory of this country and that sir is a fact.

    I believe in the following:

    Work Ethic, making the most of your work. I believe that by example people will follow what I do, a lazy boss does not a good worker make. We as children of our parents are heavily influenced in workplace ethics by our parents, and there sir is where I have had the worst experiences...hiring out of work people for short term jobs that are older than I am. The 43 year old I had last week I wanted to leave in a dumpster. Worse still the guy before him spent all his time texting when he wasnt carrying something...in front of my clients. His age? 49. He made 9 bucks from me...and I left him at a bus stop. I've had the best luck with guys who are older than college age and younger than forty.

    I think you experienced the child of lazy parents...it happens.
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    Dang it Spin, I was thinking of relocating to the east coast and applying for your opening. Now your telling me I'm not old enough?

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    nuff said

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    Quote Originally Posted by armygreywolf View Post
    HEY! (Yea I yelled, but it's ok)

    Yanno, not everyone of my generation are total sh*tballs. I admit we have quite a few but myself as an example...people think I work way too much and focus too much when I am working. Most of the guys I grew up with are the same way. You handled it right, they don't show, it's a no go. BUT I hope you were joking about the latter statement. You will always be missing out on the best and most dedicated. Frankly, adults prior to my generation made a big stink out of the 36 hour work week which became a 40 hour week. Now...if your my generation likely your entire adult life you've never worked less than 50 hours a week and better than half of us have two jobs as it is...life is hard, we are harder. Remember that. I certainly am a little heated about the comment and I can admit that, but then I don't appreciate a fell swoop right off of the hardest working generation in america, statistically speaking we work longer hours and at harder jobs to a lower standard of living than in the living memory of this country and that sir is a fact.
    < Gently and kindly >

    Well .... we're all at different stages in life. What you described is very much like what i experienced when i was coming up through.

    When you are in your 20's & 30's you have all of this youthful energy and you are hungry to make your mark. As you mature your passions cool and you don't have as much energy on tap. Instead of working HARD you shift your priority to working SMART.

    Another way of looking at this: You hit mid-life and people that you have come up through with start dying. It makes you realize that your days are numbered too. Chances are .... there are more days behind you than there are ahead of you.

    You come to understand that your MOST important resource is time.

    That makes you expedient in the way you do things. You don't drive yourself through a knothole unless the expenditure of time and energy is well worth the gain.

    I can see why spin might prefer folks over 60. They're settled and are more apt to do things in a methodical way. Some, with a lifetime of work experience, have uncommonly good work habits. They're reliable and steady. That might be just the right thing for his business.

    It's all good. There are pros and cons to every age group.

    In the end it's really about what works best for you as an employer.

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    She wanted a job

    I agree on all of the above. Im not really mad at the op...quite the contrary actually. Im disappointed that everything we as a generation work for and as you put...try to make our mark on is destroyed so easily by individuals without the same ethics...so much so an employer would illegally discriminate on an age group for that reason. I do say illegally because when i was in my early adult life I had to turn to the army to provide for my family simply because the jobs i was qualified for weren't "for my age group"
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    Uh should have added the job interview to your phone, or Facebook or whatever the hell you are looking at when you are looking at your phone! I am sure that they have an App for that!

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    She wanted a job

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    She wanted a job

    I concour.I'm 29 and it hard to find people who just want to work the day and get paid. ask people care about it the paycheck, not earning it just getting it. that why I like this business I earn my paycheck. and I allow friend to come earn with me. but if you come to a job with me and don't earn, I'll bring you to my house and have my girl cook us dinner. cost we are have to eat. but I'm not a business I'm a man who work for my daughter and if I can't trust you to work alone then you don't deserve a paycheck from me. in being too realize t not just my generation being lazy it the world as a whole beginning lazy.

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    Wow! Strong feelings there! Everyone is different: each person has their own positives and negatives. Not too long ago I trained a 19 year old on how to build, test, troubleshoot and do hardware and software repair on computers (as well as how to scrap them) When he gained some skills, I gave him a dollar an hour raise. He started in coming in late and sometimes not showing up at all. Left a bitter taste. I was one of those hard working young people too, once. Now I run my own business, and having a job means showing up when you are supposed to and doing what you are paid to do. I am not here to provide cash flow, I am here to run a business, and to pay and reward those who do a good job. Young or old, go out and prove yourself. I did and do every day and if I don't, I don't get paid.

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    The retail place that I work gets a bunch of college kids each year. I would have to say that 75% have no work ethic, 20% are ok, 4% are good and 1% are great.

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    Somewhere there exists a cave drawing calling the kids these days lazy

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    Armygreywolf: thank you for your service. Makes me proud to be an American!
    I'm not illegally discriminating, since no job is being advertised.
    Doesn't mean I won't hire a younger person.
    It means that they gotta impress me.
    It also means that they have to show up!
    Thanks for sharing your feelings.

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    After getting a very good review and a nice raise, my supervisor once told me that 90% of my job was showing up on time.

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    She wanted a job

    your welcome spin. Im upset at my own age group...and really its our parents that served as the best example. Ive had far worse luck with 40 to 55 than 25 to 40 so far...sad situation amd it only cements the reason china outproduces us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimicrk View Post
    After getting a very good review and a nice raise, my supervisor once told me that 90% of my job was showing up on time.
    We always joke about" 80 percent of success is showing up". Funny but true. Add it to your quotes sirs

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    Hummm ... i dunno. There's a lot to this.

    I've seen people that you would think were completely useless come right to the front under the right circumstances. It goes across all age groups.

    On the other side of it .... under some circumstances even the best people will under perform.

    It's not black and white.

    ETA: Harry Truman had a plaque on his desk that read " The buck stops here ". You've gotta respect that because it's a "No Excuses" style of management. That's the way i run my jobs.

    What it all boils down to is that if something on the job isn't going right it's ALWAYS the boss's fault.
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