NEW NEW yORK E SCRAP LAW !

Not to sound mean Olddude but you missed the boat on NY's E-Scaping Law. It effects residents only and goes into effect January first. It penalizes residents $100 per instance for throwing out electronics in their garbage and recycle bin, which is perfect for E-Scrappers in NY like myself who rely on residents for their electronics. Anything to make NY green.

You haven't been able to throw electronics away here in California for years. I'm not sure how much that has changed things. Electronics are still thrown into the trash.

However, there is a tax payer funded program to dispose of CRT devices. This is paid by a tax from new television and monitor purchases. There are two levels to the program, collectors and recyclers. Recyclers can be collectors as well. There are two tiers of per pound payments. The collectors get paid by the recyclers, and I believe that is 0.18/lb right now. The recyclers are reimbursed by the state, I think that is 30 something cents per pound. It seems to be working decently well now. It was full of abuse in the beginning but California is diligent in checking on the source of the CRT devices (they have to be from California).

So, at least with CRT devices, there are places that pick up for free, accept for free, and even pay for them.

Originally Posted by ryanw

You haven't been able to throw electronics away here in California for years. I'm not sure how much that has changed things. Electronics are still thrown into the trash.

However, there is a tax payer funded program to dispose of CRT devices. This is paid by a tax from new television and monitor purchases. There are two levels to the program, collectors and recyclers. Recyclers can be collectors as well. There are two tiers of per pound payments. The collectors get paid by the recyclers, and I believe that is 0.18/lb right now. The recyclers are reimbursed by the state, I think that is 30 something cents per pound. It seems to be working decently well now. It was full of abuse in the beginning but California is diligent in checking on the source of the CRT devices (they have to be from California).

So, at least with CRT devices, there are places that pick up for free, accept for free, and even pay for them.

Ryan,

I hope California is doing better keeping out of state CRTs out, than they have been in keeping cans and bottles out. Can't tell you how many stories I've read that say California redeems more than 100% of the cans and bottles they sell. Read stories of people from Nevada buying cans and bottles for a penny or two and driving them to California, making hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Originally Posted by mthomasdev

Ryan,

I hope California is doing better keeping out of state CRTs out, than they have been in keeping cans and bottles out. Can't tell you how many stories I've read that say California redeems more than 100% of the cans and bottles they sell. Read stories of people from Nevada buying cans and bottles for a penny or two and driving them to California, making hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yeah, I have read a lot about out of state CRV fraud. There have been a lot of busts, but not equaling the traffic of them coming in. Many of the busts included recyclers licensed by the state colluding with collectors from out of state. The law as it is right now states that you can only cash in 100 lbs of cans at a time which still is a whole lot.

The CA CEW (Covered Electronic Waste) program seems to have a decently high reject rate (I don't know the percentage off hand, but had read about it a couple years ago). Spot checks on the direct source of the CRTs by phone even end up excluding ones that actually came from the state legitimately. If the phone number was wrong, or the person gives the wrong answer to questions, it's not counted. There is a scrap yard near me that stopped buying CRTs because a lot of the people bringing them in were either not answering their phone, didn't have a phone, or weren't able to be contacted in some way. There was such a high reject rate, that it wasn't worth it.

Yep! We are now registered with New York State DEC as a recycling drop off center and a recycling center. That means annual reports and record keeping of the ewaste stream. CRT disposal, following the letter to the law, is difficult. There is, however, an opportunity in there to start new businesses.. Look for the silver lining......

Yep, ever since that EPA lady sent me the paperwork registered centers fill out, I've gotten into the habbit of keeping track of everything and using their format so when we do go to register, it won't seem so foreign. Right now it's getting up and off the ground with appliance pickup apparently lol.

These things always seem to get out of hand quickly. We all know what paves the road to Hell...

In other news, I need to get a mail truck, so that I can haul cans across state lines! That worked well on TV, didn't it???

Enjoy your New Year everyone

You too!

As a New Yorker, for better or worse, this was interesting as I had heard about the law but was not aware of the details. I have been collecting Ewaste for over a year now and was planning to build an attractive collection bin similar to the clothing bins one sees for electronics. It looks like I would be wise to invest in the $250 dollar fee to do this, though as many of you do, this is a part time sideline for me. Any thoughts on collecting electronics this way without the "permit"? Our local solid waste takes the elctronics whole, I would be breaking them down and selling components.

Originally Posted by tdean

As a New Yorker, for better or worse, this was interesting as I had heard about the law but was not aware of the details. I have been collecting Ewaste for over a year now and was planning to build an attractive collection bin similar to the clothing bins one sees for electronics. It looks like I would be wise to invest in the $250 dollar fee to do this, though as many of you do, this is a part time sideline for me. Any thoughts on collecting electronics this way without the "permit"? Our local solid waste takes the elctronics whole, I would be breaking them down and selling components.

Not sure where in Upstate NY you are but I've been getting electronics from folks through Facebook groups. I like the drop off idea but you might need an additional permit or two to construct and place the bin.

-Matt

Am I reading this right..... NY doesn't accept Escrap from outside states?
Wonder if I can ship it in?
This would put a bullet into my scrapping eWaste if not....

Originally Posted by BDAScrapper

Am I reading this right..... NY doesn't accept Escrap from outside states?
Wonder if I can ship it in?
This would put a bullet into my scrapping eWaste if not....

No we do, the bill that was passed made it illegal to throw out electronics in the garbage.

Awesome, been reading up on importing scrap into NY. Doesn't seem to be any issue at all, as long as it is inspected before it leaves here, upon arrival and has a destination. Wasent so sure about Escrap though, it's the time of the year when everyone is throwing out old CPUs there is probably about a container of tvs DVD players and CPUs at the dump, I grabbed 4 today and got goodies out of all 4, back again tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply, still won't let me PM. Says I'm not allowed yet.

Originally Posted by BDAScrapper

Awesome, been reading up on importing scrap into NY. Doesn't seem to be any issue at all, as long as it is inspected before it leaves here, upon arrival and has a destination. Wasent so sure about Escrap though, it's the time of the year when everyone is throwing out old CPUs there is probably about a container of tvs DVD players and CPUs at the dump, I grabbed 4 today and got goodies out of all 4, back again tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply, still won't let me PM. Says I'm not allowed yet.

That's fine, i'm sure you're not too far away from the requirement for it. Anyhow, I feel it's important to have external relations with other scrappers(sounds like Bermuda's a honey hole in itself).