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    ein, business questions

    I am official. I now have a ein in the eyes of the irs. I did it under sole proprietor Did this for selling on ebay as Im going over the 20k tax free cap.

    Question is, how the heck do I write off purchases of inventory? Ok say I buy part a 50 bucks, then resell.. Obviously no receipt I bought part a since it was cash, so how do I show this to the irs as expenses.

    I been keeping a handwritten log and well over 1500 in 3 weeks in inventory. I need to be able to write this off obviously.

    What else can I write off? Gas, business lunches, shipping supplies, helper labor for teardown???



    I dont have a business license as it is only online sales, although essentially im a pawn shop for broken stuff. Do I need one?

    And third and final, I'm not collecting sales tax. Do I need to?


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    Wow, a lot of questions.

    First, I'm going to tell you to find your local Small Business Association office, and get all the info you need there. There are volunteers that will help you for free.

    Secondly, you need to start writing your own receipts. Get a pad you can fill out with details of where/what/who is purchased, and have the seller sign it.

    You can write off a lot of things. Not going to go into it all, but keep a mileage log that you use for business trips. Date, beginning mileage, ending mileage, and destination/purpose. If you get your car serviced anywhere and they have the mileage on the receipt, keep that copy in your log book as well for proof of mileage on the car.

    You'll have to look into collecting sales tax for your state.

    HTH

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    Also business license is a good idea.
    Not sure what your state would catorgize it as, but for me it is vendor.

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    Yes, forgot about that. In my city, a Home Occupation Permit is available that you get before you apply for a business license...that's if you're working out of your home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy214 View Post
    Did this for selling on ebay as Im going over the 20k tax free cap.
    There is no Tax Free Cap >> IRS expects you to claim all income
    PayPal helps you with that by providing a 1099 if over 20K

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    You can deduct shipping supplies, business equipment (Such as tape guns, a computer,...), and the cost of your inventory. You need receipts, though. On eBay, print off a copy of everything that sold. Keep that in your file. Keep another folder full of your purchases.

    Then, send it in to your tax guy, and see what happens! You may want a Sales Tax license if you're selling to people in the same state that you are in....
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    If you have an EIN, I would also file as an LLC. It'll make things easier down the road as you continue to grow. Also now that you are on the "radar" make sure you have correct zoning, permits, etc. for whatever inventory you are selling (EPA could come knocking if you aren't careful). As far as what you can and cannot deduct, below is a list that should help you out:

    Deductible
    -Home Office (computer for business use, furniture, and supplies. Burden of proof of use is on YOU)
    -Software and subscriptions (accounting software, subscriptions, etc.)
    -Mileage (Keep a log with miles at start of trip, miles at end, tolls, parking costs, and purpose of trip). Commuting to office does NOT count.
    -Traveling (Airfare, rental car, dry cleaning, hotel, and bellboy tips are all deductible)
    -Meals (Business related meals like meetings, etc. are deductible)
    -Health insurance (If you pay your own health insurance through your business, these are 100% deductible including premiums of your spouse and kids)
    -Retirement contributions
    -Social Security
    -Telephone service (business calls, business cell phones, etc.)

    In terms of taxes, it depends on your local laws. Here in Hawaii, we do not have a sales tax per se. Instead we need something called a "General Excise Tax License." We pay GET on our gross receipts (as opposed to just what we sell and before deductions) no matter where or from what the income comes from. A lot of businesses charge the value of the GET (4.7%) to the customer, but they actually have to pay taxes on the new total (for example, say you buy something from the grocery store for $10. The store charges you $10 + $0.47 tax for a total of $10.47. The store now pays the state $0.49 in taxes. Instead of losing $0.47 on the sale, they only lose $0.02 on the sale by passing the tax on to the customer). But it varies depending on what state (or even county) you live in.

    My suggestion is you invest in TurboTax. I use it for my personal and business taxes and it walks you through everything. Pick-up a copy and play around with the program to get an idea of what is deductible and what isn't.
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    Get yourself a good accountant.

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    All "legit" business expenses can be deducted and should be. There needs to be a recognized "paper trail", so get receipts for all expenses especially the cash ones. You need to be as focused on documenting cost as much as, if not more than profits. Profits are grater when you capture, document and control all expenses. Don't get caught up on "write offs", focus on controlling and documenting "real" cost.

    I would recommenced that you talk to someone you know and trust that has a small business that has been profitable for the last five years. This person if willing can be a great "mentor" and help with much more as you grow. A good business accountant is the best money spent, for a small business and should become part of your "team".

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    As Ryawn said, if you are a business that is run out of your home (where many businesses start), get a city home based business license before any other government type license. This is best way to start process of "legit" business and can be a needed resource as well. Cities like legitimate businesses (they want & need your money), they also have resources that can help you. A business will be "taxed" by governments enough and at all levels. For me the ones I want to and don't mind paying taxes to are my local governments, as this is where I live and earn my income (doesn't mean I won't complain about it). For me it seems inefficient and wasteful for so much of our taxes to go to the "Capitols", hoping they will send some back my way!


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