cost of setting up an ewaste plant

The sky is the limit on what it could cost. I was talking to a company that is growing by leaps and bounds. They told me that you could spend 3 to 4 million. For a smaller set up .

from what i see/know... money is NOT a problem at all- i just want to be sure that i know what im taking about when i make my pitch.

local govt & natl govt will most likely be involved because this will lead to job creation & cleaning up the environment.

I have no idea what the cost would be overall, but I would think the the two biggest costs out of the gate will be land / plant acquisition and equipment. If you choose to lease an existing facility, that would eliminate the cost of buying land and building a facility. On the equipment side, that would depend on the type of operation you will be running. In general, you will be receiving material, processing material, and selling material. Each of these processes will have several sub-components (for example, receiving material: will you have your own vehicles hauling material? Buy those vehicles or lease them? Hire third party haulers?, etc.). The processing part will be the most expensive I would think because depending on what you're doing (and the scale), this could involve millions of dollars.

Also, you will want to keep in mind you will need some money to fund operations ("working capital") for a period of time until you generate cash flow sufficient to operate. Beyond just the costs of plant and equipment, therefore, you will need some additional funds.

With no other facility in the entire country, it sounds like one hell of an opportunity, and worth your time to work on a business plan.

Your money bunnies would have already picked up on your lack of knowledge, they'll hire a consultant, build the plant and maybe just maybe hire you as the night janitor.

Should have done your research before opening the barn door.



You post a lot of things that are just obnoxious. If you're so smart, why don't you share something useful instead of being a @$$hole?

nah, i dont care either way
im VERY thick skinned

and i dont think he meant to insult me
just the way he is
speaks his mind

anyways, back to business
i found out that there are ewaste extracting & refining facilities in the country but they are small and located in the Johannesburg area
which is about 650kms away.

lets see what happens...

if it doesnt work out, life goes on
its not the end of the world

Originally Posted by Swampy

Your money bunnies would have already picked up on your lack of knowledge, they'll hire a consultant, build the plant and maybe just maybe hire you as the night janitor.

Should have done your research before opening the barn door.



You post a lot of things that are just obnoxious. If you're so smart, why don't you share something useful instead of being a @$$hole?

I qualify both for being obnoxious and an @$$hole, a status that isolates me from ignorant people.

Originally Posted by alloy2

Might be worth the price of a plane ticket, first arrange fro a tour of a e-waste plant.


If they'll allow pictures take many, take noted and make sure your pocket recorder is on.

A fellow from Germany started up Exnor a company that specializes in e-waste and refining in Winkler Manitoba, some background on the community, it's hugely populated with Minnonights of yes German ethnicity. So right off the batt you know the company didn't land there by chance.

Dealing with people of a similar background and language paved the road for permits, Winnipeg a much larger city a stone through away, had our entrepreneur tried to establish his operation there would be still tied up in red tape.

Exner E-Waste Processing inc.

I think that Exner would be a good study, compute the total floor space, the receiving area, equipment used and placement. Not sure if Exner refines in house or sends the cons out, if I were you I would consider sending the concentrates out for refining done outside with a coper refinery this will give you a bit of leeway with your financiers. As it will give your money guys some outside accountability.

Your concentrates at the end of the final process will be about 95% copper the remainder precious metals and for this reason best to have a copper refinery do the refining, I believe there is a large copper refinery in Africa, A lot of catalytic converters are shipped from North America to one of the copper smelters in Africa, the converters are added to the smelt, the copper acts as a collector for the precious metals.

Back to the Exner plant, now that you have the square footage and layout time to do a spreadsheet get your ducks lined up, make a powerpoint presentation that will hammer your point. Make sure each investor has a copy.

Now for the important stuff, compute your start up costs then amortize your equipment, the building lease, employee wages and benefits, office supplies, vehicles ( purchase or lease ) waste disposel etc. then .go to kitco for historical graphs for copper, gold, silver, platinum, palladium etc. You'll be at the mercy od how volatile the markets have performed you'll need to establish a baseline.

Once your satisfied with the numbers you'll be able to give your investors an idea on what to expect for yearly return on their investment.

If at all possible find a retired business mentor to coach you Home

the part in bold is EXACTLY what i was thinking about


just got a promising response from a govt owned corp today- the main guy in charge of recycling asked me to send in my CV/resume
these guys have HUGE budgets.

i had emailed him and quite a few senior ppl in local & natl govt a few days ago
introduced myself & explained that i have lots of ideas about recovering precious metals from ewaste but no way to act upon them.

Originally Posted by auminer

BAH!!!

I need your ""money bunnies"" here in Dallas-Ft.Worth.

I'm finding out that DFW is THE SUCK for ewaste buyers. It's a sad day when I'll get just about the same in my pocket at the end of the transaction shipping ~1000 pounds of boards to Ohio as I would driving that same 1000# to the very highest paying buyer I can find within 100 miles of a 7 million person metropolitan area. Most buyers I've called today pay barely over half what the buyer in Ohio pays for the exact same boards.

Same here in Las Vegas. The yards here will only take motherboards and not at a good price. No one else will pay anything at all for them.

After the Japanese were defeated in WWII and the country was struggling to get back on her feet. They had sent delegates to American factories to observe to inner workings. It was later found that the delegates had been equipped with special soft soled shoes designed to pick up metal particles from the shop floors.

The metal particles latter examined for alloy composition.

Remember all is fair in love and war.

at the end of it all
if all i get is a decent, stable permanent job, then i still will be better off than i am right now.
i dont care if someone "steals" all my ideas etc bcos right now thats all they are- ideas

at least this way i get paid more than im currently earning & i get to see my ideas in action & hopefully become a part of something exciting.


by the way- you guys get paid more than double(i mean that literally) what we guys get paid for ewaste here in South Africa
ive been working out the prices that ewasted posts.

i wonder who is making all the money in the ewaste field here in SA.

Originally Posted by alloy2

I qualify both for being obnoxious and an @$$hole, a status that isolates me from ignorant people.

Nope, it puts you right in their midst.

Originally Posted by msmoorad

at the end of it all
if all i get is a decent, stable permanent job, then i still will be better off than i am right now.
i dont care if someone "steals" all my ideas etc bcos right now thats all they are- ideas

at least this way i get paid more than im currently earning & i get to see my ideas in action & hopefully become a part of something exciting.


by the way- you guys get paid more than double(i mean that literally) what we guys get paid for ewaste here in South Africa
ive been working out the prices that ewasted posts.

i wonder who is making all the money in the ewaste field here in SA.

Send me a message. I can help you with your ewaste projected business startup.